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[–]Datachost 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (8 children)

There was a slide from a WPATH or some such presentation going around this week listing a number of other ways gender dysphoria may present. These included depression, anxiety, possible symptoms of autism and decreased feelings of gender dysphoria. Apparently gender dysphoria might present itself through you no longer experiencing gender dysphoria. But it's not a cult

[–]Haylstorm 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Drives me up the wall when it's the 'feeling uncomfortable about your body' one. For teens. Like bro, have you ever MET a teen? Just about everyone is uncomfortable with their body at that age because puberty does a number and a half on you! It's a sign of puberty, not of being trans.

The autism bit does not surprise me and def needs more looking into with the amount of autistic people that are trans. There's a link there but whether it's the autism itself or other factors would be interesting to find out. I suspect it's a bit of both. Like if you're putting things in boxes and something is outside of it and trans explains it? You probably need to talk with them and let them know men can like feminine activities without it making them not men. I do think that the 'acceptance' in the group is a factor too, especially when they likely have not found a lot before.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You probably need to talk with them and let them know men can like feminine activities without it making them not men.

I think it’s age-related too. I teach 8/9 year olds and one year for a day where then school was collecting money for breast cancer everyone had to come in wearing something pink. I didn’t have anything pink and so went to the art cupboard and grabbed a pink ribbon, made a large bow and put it in my hair.

The children in my class loved it, but a lot of them asked me if I was now a woman. This happened even more during break time when I was on playground duty with children from 7-11 years old. Just having a pink bow in my hair despite being dressed in shirt, tie and formal trousers, was enough for them to be confused - and some of them were very confused by it.

It is similar to how Muslim girls seem to get very confused when they ask me if I have a family. A mid-forties man without a wife and kids breaks their cultural expectations so hard that they actually struggle with it, to the point of not believing me - doesn’t happen with children from other backgrounds and boys of any background just never ask (they get upset when I refuse to discuss football with them).

[–]Haylstorm 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Makes sense by little kid standards haha. Young kids don't have a lot of experience and pink is a 'girl' colour therefore wearing it makes you a woman. Quite sad that people use kids being kids to push an agenda rather than just helping them understand. It feels like we've gone backwards a bit from when I was growing up and boys could wear pink and play with the oven and just be a boy that wears pink and plays with an oven.

It also makes sense that Muslim girls would be confused there, you're basically a unicorn to them lol.

[–]Alphix 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

For a while my wife had short hair, while I wore my hair relatively long, with a beard. I was also a bodybuilder, which means a VERY masculine figure.

Anyway, young kids would stare at us as if we were aliens. I would explain to them that being a man doesn't mean I can't have longer hair and that being a woman doesn't need to wear her hair long, either. But the kids were mesmerized.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My sisters husband has long hair too and gets the same. It always makes him laugh when they call him miss/mrs and he just lets them know men can have long hair. Kids just haven't seen much yet and long hair equals woman to them until they encounter something outside that.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I thought the same thing as a kid. Like how I thought dogs with pointy ears are cats.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I used to think that way as a child. It actually made me unable to recognize my own gender dysphoria, because my favorite color wasn't pink and I didn't want to wear dresses all the time (funnily enough no one does at that age, but I failed to see it; I wouldn't mind now either). But if I did happen to like pink but didn't have gender dysphoria, I'd likely be confused into transitioning.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's why care needs to be taken. Kids don't really have enough experience to know themselves and can just believe what they're told. Not saying it's always the case but how fast some jump to active steps rather than seeing what the kid is thinking is an issue.

I knew some boys growing up that loved makeup. Not gay or trans or anything, just loved spending time with their big sisters and imitating them. I'd be worried if someone was telling them that because they like that they're actually girls. Because I can see them thinking and agreeing with that and not really understanding what it means.