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[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

But no matter how united society is, that adds the biggest difference that breaks things even beyond the two-party system, which ties into the SJW ideology as well: Humanity might be the most self-centered they have ever been, to a point where they bypass being self-centered, go past arrogant, and go into openly evil. It's not even something you can chalk off to "humanity is inherently this" thing, since this only happened en masse in the last 100 years and it keeps going and going, and now it's at critical mass.

With this in mind, people may "claim" to be on one side or the other of everything- politics, class, minority or majority group, fandom, what have you, but people's true "side" is really "It's Me against the world. There's me, there's my side of the people who agree with me and, better yet, agree to bow down to me and accept me as the God of this new world, and there's everyone else, who are all utter monsters who need to be purged in order to better spread how awesome I am and how utterly perfect I am." SJW culture represents a good example of the problem here: The concept of social equality is right and people SHOULD be given a level playing field for all, and pretty much everyone can agree with that...but the big thing getting in their way is that inevitably, when they're starting to make a big step forward, they splinter off and compartmentalize any difference they have to make the group smaller and smaller until every singular person is at each other's throats. The big tragedy of the woke is that whenever the SJWs are about to drive a stake into Voldemort for good, it fails because they can't stop arguing over who gets to be Harry Potter and they lose their chance to make real change. Again...it's not about 'one side' winning, because it rears its ugly head that their 'side' is 'Me against The World."

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You don't know history if you think this is new. Research what horrors every single ancient society did to those who didn't stand in line. It'll make you glad to have been born in this time.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But that's part of my point. A culture that does those horrors to those who didn't stand in line is a culture that suppresses people's own individuality for the greater good. When they do those things to those who don't stand in line, you support "maybe I just have to accept I was dealt a bad hand and accept being a peasant if it keeps me and my family alive for one more day", and the people who go "I am the most special human being to ever live, worship me!" are the ones who are made an example of by the people who really have power to teach those peasants not to try to look for something above their station.

By contrast in the modern time, the culture is about every person truly believing they're special and they deserve to be raised on a pedestal, even if they're really not in any way, shape, or form- which is the exact opposite to what you're claiming.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You basically admitted to being evil. Already the only reason people want to stay alive is because we're brainwashed into believing this life is actually good, when really it's absolutely vile. And you want it to be even worse?!

The people who think like yourself are the ones who raise themselves on a pedestal most of all, thinking they have the right to control everyone because they're superior to everyone. Are you a sadist who enjoys others' pain? Even if people must be purged, it's pointless to torture them! What "greater good" do you speak of? What good is a greater good if no one can have any good things from it, and in fact faces many bad things because of it? Or are you seeking to please devils?

The only way anyone can be raised on a pedestal is by being raised higher than others. By positioning yourself in such ruthless authority you are putting yourself on a very high pedestal. And it will result in your own demise when you can't live up to your own standards.

And I must warn you of this: if you think you're in the clear, being inherently above others by divine right, the rulers are using you as much of a pawn as anyone else, and they are only using their favoritism of you to hurt you more later. They only want to pile up charges against you, so they can make you reincarnate, and then you won't be so lucky anymore. Don't let your pride blind you. The only solution is to rid of the world itself, which is awful from its very foundations. And in order to not stay in the system you must renounce the system, including what we call justice. I can show you how, if you care.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You basically admitted to being evil. Already the only reason people want to stay alive is because we're brainwashed into believing this life is actually good, when really it's absolutely vile. And you want it to be even worse?!

Oh, if this is what you're claiming, then I'll admit I'm evil. Because humankind is so self-centered that LITERALLY EVERY HUMAN BEING ON EARTH is evil. LITERALLY. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Show me someone who isn't evil and I'll show you a liar who's trying to lull you into a false sense of security to twist the knife into you. There is no human who is not broken, even newborn babies are born evil in this world. Yes, I'll shout from a mountaintop I'm evil, and in the same breath shout AND SO ARE YOU.

The people who think like yourself are the ones who raise themselves on a pedestal most of all, thinking they have the right to control everyone because they're superior to everyone. Are you a sadist who enjoys others' pain? Even if people must be purged, it's pointless to torture them! What "greater good" do you speak of? What good is a greater good if no one can have any good things from it, and in fact faces many bad things because of it? Or are you seeking to please devils?

You're the one who said that humanity needs to be unified as one. Newsflash: humanity is unified as one when they are controlled by people. That's why humanity is broken, literally every single person in the world thinks that way- INCLUDING YOU, if you didn't think this way you wouldn't try arguing with me and try to change my mind. You're just as evil as you claim I am, and anyone who debates any human about anything is just as evil as you claim I am. You think your opinion is so special that it needs to be taken as the core just as much as I do.

The only way anyone can be raised on a pedestal is by being raised higher than others. By positioning yourself in such ruthless authority you are putting yourself on a very high pedestal. And it will result in your own demise when you can't live up to your own standards.

And that's the whole reason that humanity is hopelessly broken. Literally EVERYONE wants to be raised on that pedestal, EVERYONE wants to be raised higher than others, EVERYONE wants to be in ruthless authority. Again, show me someone who doesn't and I'll show you a liar...and DISAGREE with me for this and I'll show you a mirror to say 'HERE IS ONE JUST LIKE THIS.'

And I must warn you of this: if you think you're in the clear, being inherently above others by divine right, the rulers are using you as much of a pawn as anyone else, and they are only using their favoritism of you to hurt you more later. They only want to pile up charges against you, so they can make you reincarnate, and then you won't be so lucky anymore. Don't let your pride blind you. The only solution is to rid of the world itself, which is awful from its very foundations. And in order to not stay in the system you must renounce the system, including what we call justice. I can show you how, if you care.

If you disagree with me, then you're the same as you say I am. You're sucking the teat of the rulers, you also think you're inherently above me by divine right, and you are the same way. Yes, the only way to rid the world itself- but to rid the world is to destroy everyone and everything, to drop every nuclear bomb en masse to create a complete destruction of all life on this cruel, sinful world so even cockroaches and rats don't survive. Anything less than this is broken, and you showing me how is just telling me to bend the knee to you and doing exactly what you'd complain I do, and just what I complain the whole world does. You're just as evil as I am. No, you're so much MORE evil than me that compared to you I'm Jesus Christ- at least I ADMIT IT.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I never claimed to not be evil. It's the one trait shared by all life. That's why some religions emphasize faith over works, because they recognize that a truly good person is impossible. "If anyone claims he has no mistakes, he deceives himself and the truth is not in him".

But failing to be good yourself does not mean you have to actively validate and support evil, including the world.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I overreacted there, sorry, but tying it back to what I'm really saying, this seems where we went off track in the discussion beforehand.

The whole problem is that "boring" has become a synonym for "evil", and "interesting" or "cool" a synonym for "good." This is a big issue with queer theory; The theory may claim Cishets are oppressing queer people by existing, they're claimed to be evil...but ultimately the reason that queer theory defines cishets as evil boils down to "being straight is boring". Likewise, it claims "being queer makes you inherently interesting, which in turn makes you a good person." This is obviously not the case; indeed, if your entire personality boils down to what or how you like to have sex, you are one of the most painfully boring human beings on the planet to the point and admit that the only interesting thing about you and only redeeming quality you have is that you have a warm hole that it might feel good to stick something inside.

This also ties to where you might have gotten it wrong originally. Living an anonymous life and not trying to upset the apple cart may be boring, but it's not inherently good or evil. Likewise, living an "interesting" life isn't inherently good or evil as well (though the "interesting" life isn't even that interesting in most cases; it usually boils down to an "it's all about me and no one else but me, everyone else in existence is a pawn that is only there to make me look better or do my bidding", which...actually is kind of evil, and what I was saying.)