The Observer view on Scotland’s controversial proposed gender reforms | Observer editorial

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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Funny how often "compromise" with these people actually means "give me what I want, without question or complaint, and do so again when I decide that I want more later."

[–]ClassroomPast6178 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, that definition of compromise was my first suspicion but I actually think that the numbers of the nominal progressives, the type of people that generally support progressive causes (gay marriage etc) but aren’t radicalised and haven’t hung their life upon it in the way the danger hairs and TRAs have, are finding it harder and harder to ignore the incidents that provoke cognitive dissonance (Wi Spa, Loutoun County, rapists in women’s prisons etc). It might explain the sheer effort that has been put into playing down events like Wi Spa, loutoun county etc - they knew these were indefensible and blew their cause out of the water.

It’s happening in a large number of circumstances too. The reaction to the Ngozi Fulani/Lady SH incident wasn’t what the agitators wanted with a lot of people (including a sizeable contingent of British West Africans) instantly suspecting a stitch up even though the media were doing their best to spin the story into a race row - it may have backfired on Ngozi/Marlene/Mary as the Charity Commission investigate her dealings.

The recent stampede at the Afrobeats concert at the Brixton O2. The media didn’t even try to spin it racially - despite initially trying to pin it on non-existent police dogs, which for once the Met managed to hold a decent press conference and put that rumour to bed.

I don’t think it’s all going to return to a pre-2015 level of normalcy overnight, but I actually think we might be starting to move out of the worst of it and the power of the Critical Social Justice crowd might be waning. We might have to put up with a few more years of woke Hollywood and such, but I do think the likes of JKR et al are starting to have an effect.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Unfortunately, the knock-on effects of IdPol in politics are unlikely to ever go away. Those particular children have gotten entirely too used to their schoolyard bullshit, and don't strike me as the sort to want to go back to being adults again.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not only that, but IdPol is engineered to keep going. Even if it loses some power, IdPol is tailor-made to keep going because it lures in all the groups: Whiny teenagers who are 14 and thus know everything about the world, whiny incels, whiny basics who want the law to codify that it, indeed, is all about them, personally... and those groups just so happen to be the biggest whiners on the planet who will whine about literally anything that doesn't go their way, and also the most spoiled, most entitled, most terminally online people in existence so you'll never get rid of them. They'll always be part of the discourse because if you don't give them what they want, the second they want it, they'll scream bloody murder and make it their mission to ruin your life.