Am i the only one who really hates the "As long as they aren't harming anyone, why do you care how people identify"? argument?

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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

See, I didn't (and, in fact, still don't) have a problem with this bullshit when the people indulging it keep it to themselves. If it scratches some itch in your head to run around as a furry, or a dragonkin, or in women's clothing? Fine, fuck it, you do you.

But they never seem to be able to keep it at home, so to speak. They start to spread it around. They start to demand special consideration for whatever they are. And, almost inevitably, they start demanding punishments for anyone who won't play along. That's when my willingness to mind my business about this nonsense comes to a screeching stop. It's why I utterly loathe the pride crap. It's not because I hate the gays, it's because I hate the lewd faggots who think that their assorted debaucheries and perversions are acceptable public fare, and how they immediately play the "you're a filthy homophobe" card when they face rightful criticism for it.

(And I would be just as displeased if straight people were doing that sort of shit, to be clear. Maybe I'm just a terrible prude, but there's some things that need to be kept strictly private. And if not? Then you don't get to say shit when other people maybe start to put laws in place to deal with your little hobbies, since you're so keen to share.)

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's exhibitionism. Sexual deviance trends to progress much like a drug addiction and once someone starts "getting off" on the idea of publicly expressing their fetish and enjoying the disgusted negative responses from others it will continue to progress to more and more extreme displays in order to get that response.

Of course not everyone is an exhibitionist, but it's currently a problem with trans stuff specifically since they've found a kind of social loophole where normally, stuff like going out in full BDSM gear will get you unwanted negative attention, society is currently in a trans-infatuation stage and will consider anyone who is negative towards it to be a bigot. This only empowers the exhibitionist elements to be more and more annoying.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's why I utterly loathe the pride crap. It's not because I hate the gays, it's because I hate the lewd faggots who think that their assorted debaucheries and perversions are acceptable public fare, and how they immediately play the "you're a filthy homophobe" card when they face rightful criticism for it.

That's how I view pride parades too. I want them banned. They are obscene and they trick gay people into thinking that it's okay to behave like animals.

What happens in private between consenting adults in private is nobody's business as long as there's no adultery or incest going on. But if you do that in public and expect me to not only be okay with it but also cheer it on, then yes, it becomes my business. So I have every right to be against it.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think the whole idea of the public pride parade is deeply flawed. It's basically asking for negative attention. If they want to do private events of the sort at adult establishments I frankly couldn't care less. Just don't involve kids. That's it.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. No kids involved.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You do need to be careful to make sure you hate the bad ones less than you don't hate the good ones. Otherwise your impulse will become "burn it all down" and you'll forget that the latter even exists. Way too many people have made that mistake since June 2020, and I'll let you guess why.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

and you'll forget that the latter even exists.

That, I like to think, isn't going to be a problem for me. I'm regularly reminding myself that not all homosexuals are faggots, not trans are troons, and the like. That the bullshit really is coming from a shrieking minority (and their boosters), and most of the people in those groups are just doing their thing with no hassle for anyone else.

It's not easy to remember, but I keep it in mind precisely because I don't want to be one of those "burn it, burn it all" types. Just turning off my brain and starting to foam up at the mouth like entirely too many other people seem to love doing is as bad as what the people I loathe are doing (IMO, any way).

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't know what happened. Before June 2020 most of those on the more conservative side of the aisle had some common sense and actual values, contrary to the strawman depiction of them. But then in June 2020 everyone completely lost it. It's almost as if they're doing it solely to piss off libtards. That's a horrible low, as low as said libtards, and extremely dangerous. They're willing to abandon everything and hurt loads of innocent people just to get some petty payback. They're only destroying themselves, and feeding into the narrative that everyone on the right is a fascist who loves Hitler. But at this point they're like, "yeah why not".

On a spiritual level the real plot is to weed out true Christians and round them up in concentration camps. This "new right" isn't even remotely compatible with Christianity. They already hate Jesus, they tell you "believe in him but avoid his teaching like the plague". They're all going to convert to something else (Islam?), or become atheists and naturalists, and then with their newfound love of the dictatorship they will join the left in rounding Christians up and putting them in concentration camps. Watch it happen, unless something else intervenes.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Corona happened, everyone went online during lockdowns, internet made borderline people crazy, normal social connections that prevented people from normally sliding down internet rabbit holes went away, discourse got more and more unhinged on both sides of the fence, normies and people with regular opinions either left voluntarily if they were non-combative or got banned and pushed out via mob mentalities if they were argumentative.

End result everyone has become radicalized politically. Normal social dynamics are broken and won't return to normal unless people are proactive in reforming social bonds.

Simple rules. Don't discuss religion or politics at the dinner table, or on Facebook. I might be inclined to agree with my cousin's on opinions of how colonialism was bad for the Indians and they were subjected to inhumane conditions for example, but ranting about it at the dinner table during Thanksgiving is not appropriate, and going to whine about how everyone is mean to you on Twitter is even less so. I'm not the one stirring up drama by suggesting you not be invited, quite the opposite. I want less drama. That's why I suggest we don't invite the annoying cunts so the rest of us can enjoy our rare opportunities to see each other.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That makes sense, but I still don't understand why most conservatives did a 180 instead of trending towards ancap or something. The only explanation I can think of is they're just that fed up.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most didn't, social media amplified the voices of the crazies that have always been present and the less crazy either got bullied into silence, expelled from conservative circles for not being crazy enough, or succumbed to the crazy. Same things happened on the left.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, it's definitely most of them. Most people I know irl are conservatives, and they are all acting like this except for me.

3 years ago they were mostly reasonable and just wanted to be left alone and live their lives freely, not censored and have their freedom taken away by crybabies and tyrannical governments, and loved America and its founding values.

Now they're obsessed with silencing viewpoints they don't agree with, they worship vengeance, they don't care about anything but being the victors, they value conformity and want a strong state to enforce it, they want to legislate morality, some of them want to make being gay or trans a crime, they think mental illnesses don't exist, they hate free markets, they think America and freedom are degenerate, they want to go back to strict gender roles where women can't even vote, etc. Another huge difference is they now hate Jesus and the New Testament (except for the pastoral epistles and Revelation, and Romans 1:18-32 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-35), which for a large portion of them used to be central to their lives. They used to be wary of the world and the flesh and "science", now they consider the spiritual evil and demand exclusive attention to worldly matters. They've become exactly what they used to hate.

And of course the leftist media is going to use this to their advantage, because it feeds into their narrative that everyone is a Nazi. Part of me thinks the only reason they're doing this is to get a reaction out of the left. At any rate I now look crazy because I'm literally the only one left who remembers what half of the country used to believe in.

The exact point when this happened almost overnight was when the George Floyd protests turned into a literal great fire. I remember watching them seethe and leave behind all their principles in search of a way to cleanse us from these people. What happened was this incident changed their view of the left to anarchists rather than socialist authoritarians (which is what they really are). And since politics is so reactionary and dominated by anger and hatred and fear, they immediately ran to other side of the fence. "Whatever the left hates most, that's what we should do." And that's fascism, or at least that's what the left claims despite being fascists themselves, and the right was stupid or desperate enough to believe them.