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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I just want people to care about the millions of boys who have had their bodily autonomy/integrity violated by this nonsense.

Circumcision is not harmless. I don't believe the adverse effects have been properly studied. I have personally suffered a great deal of mental and physical anguish due to being circumcised. I don't appreciate you downplaying that aspect of it.

Transing children is worse, I agree, but circumcision is happening on a significantly larger scale. Regardless, it's not a competition. Both are harmful and unnecessary, and both can be challenged at the same time using the same arguments.

I made my original comment because this sort of moral inconsistency from people like Matt Walsh bothers me. If he had remained silent on the topic of circumcision, I would've assumed he opposed it. But now that I know he defends male genital mutilation, now that I know he probably mutilated his own sons' genitals, why on earth should I trust anything he has to say about other parents mutilating their children?

I'm not trying to "sideline the argument." I'm just disappointed.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I have personally suffered a great deal of mental and physical anguish due to being circumcised. I don't appreciate you downplaying that aspect of it.

It's not about you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I know. It's about:

the millions of boys who have had their bodily autonomy/integrity violated by this nonsense.

And the millions more who will be violated next year, and the year after that, and the year after that.

The damage to me is done. All I can do now is wait for opportunities to bring this issue to more people's attention.

The Rally to End Child Mutilation seemed like one of those opportunities. But maybe it's more about being anti-trans than pro-child? It's difficult not to think so when:

Matt Walsh opposes one form of child genital mutilation, but supports another.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The "rally to end child mutilation" is about transing kids. You can attempt to derail that by bringing circumcision into it if you wish

Should you wish to hold a separate rally about circumcision, I'll support you. But issues must be treated in an atomicistic manner if we are to see success.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Shouldn't it be called The Rally to End the Transing of Kids, then?

I would have zero problems with that.

But as it stands, The Rally to End Child Mutilation sounds like it should include circumcision. At the very least, I don't think people should be mad if I reach that conclusion based on the name.

I'm not trying to derail anything. I first heard about this rally on the intactivism subreddit. I couldn't share my opinion there because it's inexplicably pro-trans, so I came over here.

I can agree with your point about focusing on one issue at a time, that's probably the most efficient way. But I think it's fair to criticize Matt Walsh for using vague language like "child mutilation," when he only opposes one specific form of it and not all child mutilation.

If we are to see success, shouldn't we avoid contradicting ourselves?