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[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is just bullshit and not how offending works at all.

Never before in the history of humanity have the words "no u" been as true as they are right now.

The main thing stopping paedos offending is the social shame and hate.

Social shame and hatred does nothing stop people from doing something unsavory- if someone REALLY wants to commit an offense, they don't care they're breaking a social taboo or will be hated for doing it. EVEN ASSUMING for one second the "a sexual preference will be acted on" claim you're making, then it also comes into play for "Love conquers all" overtaking social shame in sexual preference, and the response of a pedo to social shame and hate would be "I'm in love with this child, even if I'm breaking a social taboo and will be hated for it, it's worth it so we can be together, and our love is so pure and true it'll make people understand". That's why the concept of punishment exists- to make sure if someone does decide they don't care about social shame or hatred, they WILL have a notable consequence that will not be good for them.

Any indication that child rape is acceptable and offending rates go up.

And likewise, any indication that punishment is too draconian leads to people committing even worse crimes than they normally would. "The penalty for being late; death- the penalty for revolution; death" would come into play.

It's not a small change that paedos offend more if given therapy, it's a large percentage observed over and over again.

Even therapists/rehabilitation workers know that for it to work, the person has to truly want to change and get better. If someone is actively seeking help themselves, that's a pretty good sign they WON'T reoffend. The people forced into therapy/rehabilitation are the ones who'll fall off the wagon and reoffend.

It's not a large chance paedos will offend more if there is hate and strict punishment, that's literally the opposite of what happens every time.

On the contrary- part of punishments working is that it needs a sliding scale of punishment so that there's always something more you can lose. This is important because once someone truly has nothing to lose, they are more dangerous than they will ever be because you can't take anything else away from them...if anything, they're defending themselves if they keep going further and further down.

Strict zero tolerance punishments lead to people who are already caught for something on the minor end of the crime now having nothing to lose, and so they'll commit even bigger atrocities of crimes than they normally would. I mean, you can't put someone in the woodchipper twice.

We're even seeing this in real time as zero tolerance bullying policies -> bullies weaponizing that policy to hurt their victims more -> the victim goes into a realm of hopelessness where they can't get out of it -> they pass the event horizon of "it's him or me. I need to kill my bully if I want to survive", and from there "...they can't give me double the punishment, especially if I plan to die in the attack, might as well get everyone else I don't like" -> more school shootings.

Men, yes even men, will not sexually abuse people if their lives are at risk and they think they will get caught.

And likewise, if a person's life is at risk for something on the low end of the spectrum, then nothing is keeping them from doing things on the high end of the spectrum. Their life is just as forfeit for doing the smaller crime, might as well do the larger crime.

You seem to have fallen for the lie that sex offenders just can't help themselves. This is nonsense. They can help themselves which is why they can spend years getting into a position of trust or years grooming a victim before acting at all. It's planned.

You seem to know a lot about how pedos operate, and you want to make things easier for pedos to molest children and get away with it. Do you have something you want to tell the class?

You have also fallen for the lie that most paedophiles were abused as children. They often concoct a story of a bad childhood to get sympathy but compulsive liar do that. Research shows torturing animals as a child is more likely to lead to someone abusing kids than being abused themselves. These people are psychopaths and sadists. And that's a horrible myth to repeat as abuse victims often avoid having relationships or kids because they are scared of become abusers when that's actually not a risk (more so their kids are at risk because abused victims tend to let questionable people into their lives).

And yet, all of the statistics do show pedophiles were molested as kids in the beginning, which is what told them it was okay to have sex with children. Yes, abusing animals also helps- and just because many abuse victims do not doesn't mean every abuse victim is innocent.

Sorry you understand how human beings work.

It's a miracle! You finally said something right in your whole spiel. I DO understand how human beings work, and it's "when your back is against the wall already, you're more dangerous than you will ever be in your life!"

EDIT: See? I can use formatting to show the important words too! I mean, it's not as good as bringing sock puppets from your pedophile buddies to say otherwise, but it works!

[–]Queen_Bread 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm sorry but if you were to ask me who, between you and jet99, is more likely to be a closet pedophile, I would definitely say it's you.

[–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ok jet99, thanks for your alt account giving its opinion too. Drive off in your white van, put down the candy and let the little boy go.