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[–]Haylstorm 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Like what? Do they think that it's a special group that no one would lie about being or something? Fucking idiots.

[–]Datachost 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think they know it isn't, but also admitting that risks the whole thing tumbling down. As soon as you start to say some predators are faking it, who else might be?

[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Worse than that:

The more insidious thing to remember is that both of the examples u/Datachost and u/ClassroomPast6178 gave took place in the United Kingdom.

This is important, because under UK laws, rape is defined as something that can only be done by a man to a woman. (If a woman rapes a man or it's a same-sex rape, then it's sexual assault in the UK- which isn't just semantics, it also has a lower sentence.)

If trans rapists can successfully force the courts to make their female victim accept them as a woman, then the trans man can also pivot to "she admitted it! She admitted I am a woman! That means I could not have raped her!". Best case, they get that lower sexual assault charge/sentence...and worst case, if the court didn't charge them with anything but rape, they get to walk free.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope, that’s wrong.

What makes rape a crime that, in the UK, only a man can commit is that the act is defined as penetration with a penis (Section 1, Sexual Offences Act 2003), not the identity claimed or bestowed upon the holder of the penis. The pronouns used in the definition of the act have no bearing on whether forcing your girlcock into someone against their will is rape…the act of penis going somewhere it wasn’t wanted is what makes it rape and not “just” a sexual assault.

The rapist known as Karen White was charged, prosecuted and found guilty of two rapes whilst claiming to be a woman.

I’m not sure why you think a man penetrating a man with a penis isn’t rape…that’s just plain bizarre. Reynhard Sinaga was convicted of 136 rapes against men and the police think the number may actually be hundreds more (and there’s another case going on right now where there may be hundreds of male victims of rape).

So in short, no one is getting let off of a rape charge by a pronoun technicality and same-sex rape is prosecuted as rape.