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[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Tinfoil hat phobic.

You do know intergenerational wealth is kind of a myth, right? There is only about a 30% chance that amy generations wealth sees it to their grandkids

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    [–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

    Sigh.

    2/3 millionaires hit zero meaningful financial help from family as well.

    The odds of getting anything from your rich great grandparents is about 10%.

    Jewish higher income is down to just bring brighter. It's why they make up such a chunk of novel winners.

    [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

    Jewish higher income is down to just bring brighter. It's why they make up such a chunk of novel winners.

    Wrong. Please show your proof of this. It has been demonstrated several times that their overrepresentation cannot be explained with higher intelligence. They are simply too few compared to their overrepresentation.

    [–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

    It has been demonstrated several times that their overrepresentation cannot be explained with higher intelligence.

    Wrong, please show your proof of this.

    My data is that with an average IQ of 111, and verbal IQ of about 125 as a group, they'll produce about 4x to 64x functioning geniuses and super producers. It roughly doubles as group IQ goes up five points.

    However, verbal IQ is way more relevant to income and achievement than non verbal. So I'm not entirely sure how that would affect the multiplier.

    Your turn.

    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    Jews don't have 111 average IQ. Israel has below 100.

    A small subgroup of jews have 111 average IQ. 4x is not enough to observe the data. With 111 mean, they have 2.66% above 140, which is 7 times that of mean 100 and with 125 mean 41 times that of mean 100.

    Even with those numbers, they do not match what we observe. Not even if ALL jews were Ashkenazi jews, which they aren't.

    [–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    Jews don't have 111 average IQ. Israel has below 100.

    They are Sephardic Jews. It's the Ashkenazi western that have the high IQ. And all those Nobel prizes. And the money.

    Intelligence differences between European and oriental Jews in Israel

    A review of studies shows that Oriental Jews in Israel have an average IQ 14 points lower than that of European (largely Ashkenazi) Jews.

    Like I said, it appears to be verbal not VS that's important for life outcomes. Making money and running a business empire needs people skills and good organization.

    Also genius at making money or education doesn't kick in at 140. Most mega rich etc are in the 130 area.

    You're also not supplying the data you need to make your case. You need to find something along the lines of group income by IQ and see if the net income of a Jew at 130 plus is higher than a comparable gentile.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    They are Sephardic Jews. It's the Ashkenazi western that have the high IQ. And all those Nobel prizes. And the money.

    A review of studies shows that Oriental Jews in Israel have an average IQ 14 points lower than that of European (largely Ashkenazi) Jews.

    Sefarad = Spain, they're also "European." Oriental here probably refers to Mizrahi and possibly Kaifeng Jews.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Kaifeng Jews.

    Like Mao.

    [–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    My bad.

    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    No, you need to find % of US Billionaires, % of university students etc for jews and then you need to figure out if your IQ can explain the overrepresentation. It has already been done multiple times and it cannot.

    You made the claim that it can be explained by their higher intelligence. Now show us that its true. You cant because its not true. You can search s/debatealtright for posts about it where people go through it detailed.

    [–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Now show us that its true. You cant because its not true. You can search s/debatealtright for posts about it where people go through it detailed.

    Don't be lazy, link or its bullshit.

    They make up only 2% of US population, but 25% of 400 wealthiest Americans.

    So an over represent of x 14.5

    Yeah, a shift of an SD plus will cause that kind of disparity. Assuming its verbal that correlates best and it does look like it re crime etc.

    Frequency of gifted doubling as the mean goes up on verbal;

    105: 110: 115: 120: 125

    Multiplyer (very rough)

    2: 4: 8: 16: 32

    So totally achievable.