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[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (6 children)
Now show us that its true. You cant because its not true. You can search s/debatealtright for posts about it where people go through it detailed.
Don't be lazy, link or its bullshit.
They make up only 2% of US population, but 25% of 400 wealthiest Americans.
So an over represent of x 14.5
Yeah, a shift of an SD plus will cause that kind of disparity. Assuming its verbal that correlates best and it does look like it re crime etc.
Frequency of gifted doubling as the mean goes up on verbal;
105: 110: 115: 120: 125
Multiplyer (very rough)
2: 4: 8: 16: 32
So totally achievable.
[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (5 children)
https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/57yq/an_analysis_of_jewish_iq_and_overrepresentation/
https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/7bsm/brilliant_article_from_thuletide_shatters_the/
[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago* (4 children)
First one. Basic logic mistake in his maths lower down.
Since Jews in the US make up about 2% of the US population and white Americans make about around 60% this would mean that, once we correct for proportions, Jews are (6 * (0.02/0.60)) = 0.2x times more likely to be represented in American "elite" samples
If Jews make up 2% of the population and they are 6 times more likely to produce elites, you'd expect 12% of the elite to be Jewish.
This also doesn't grasp the verbal IQ has a stronger correlation to life outcomes. So... Try again. Probably the reason east Asian performance isn't quite where you'd expect it to be, as their advantage is mostly on VS.
https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2018/10/on-the-east-asian-white-advantage-on-scholastic-tests/
Assorted.
Are IQ discrepancies between SES groups primarily the result of Verbal Scale differences?
However, for the lowest and highest groups the verbal scale was more closely associated with the full scale score. While IQ discrepancies between SES groups are not primarily the result of verbal scale differences, the verbal scale is a significant factor in the scores of the highest and lowest SES groups
Verbal measures of cognitive ability: The gifted low SES student's albatross
Analysis of the test scores indicated that the primary reason low SES students did not meet criteria for gifted placement was low test scores on the verbal subtests.
Graduate Student Selection: Graduate record examination, socioeconomic status, and undergraduate grade point average as predictors of study success in a western European University
Results indicated that the Analytical Writing part of the GRE predicts graduate grade point average above and beyond U‐GPA. Furthermore, the results suggest that the relationship is independent of students' socioeconomic status
Verbal and nonverbal intelligence scores within the context of poverty
Large gaps were found between students’ verbal and nonverbal intelligence scores; such gaps were not specific to any particular grade or ability level but rather were seen in all of the examined grades. Gaps were even larger for students with higher nonverbal IQ scores. Results suggest that assessments based solely on nonverbal scores should be interpreted with caution.
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (3 children)
But they're actually 30-40%, sometimes more.
[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
I don't think they do.
[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (1 child)
The 12% is based in average IQ. As I think I've pointed out with many links, it's the verbal that correlates better and that's 125.
And as you get further away from the average income the more the very high group gets represented.
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How do you feel about Apartheid?
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