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[–]magnora7 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Neither openly advocate violence

[–]IdleHands 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Suicide isn't an act of violence towards the self? It's literally murder and they're discussing the finer details. On the other hand you ban a sub because "someone said it promoted violence" according to your other post.

Did you check? Did you make a judgement? Was it a friend that reported it to you? What are examples that justify the removal of a whole sub, or is it feels-based?

[–]magnora7 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

It's researched, I didn't just listen to one person. The sub is literally based on the idea of throwing communists and gays out of helicopters.

[–]Drewski 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Physical Removal is a concept which was coined by Libertarian / Anarcho-capitalist Hans-Hermann Hoppe in which certain people would need to be expelled to have a Libertarian society. I don't agree with many of Hoppe's claims, but I think do that open discussion should be allowed to root out bad ideas or philosophies.

As for promoting actual violence, AFAIK the helicopter / Pinochet memes are meant as a joke (even if they are in bad taste) and I don't think banning the sub without any warnings or proper explanation sets a good precedent.

[–]magnora7 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It is a "joke" that is not really a joke.

The saying "Let's throw communists and gays out of helicopters, so to speak" is hard to read as anything other than advocating violence. Also the worship of Pinochet is not helping the case that it's a joke.

It's literally advocating violence.

[–]eaterjollyarmy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You hadn't refuted this point:

Physical Removal is a concept which was coined by Libertarian / Anarcho-capitalist Hans-Hermann Hoppe in which certain people would need to be expelled to have a Libertarian society. I don't agree with many of Hoppe's claims, but I think do that open discussion should be allowed to root out bad ideas or philosophies.

I'll add I suppose allowing for a "club ground" differs significantly from allowing for open discussion.

When an ethic generates information entropy, the ethic tends to root in the mind regardless of how immoral, unjust, or incorrect. That depends more on the worthiness of the individuals to integrate with each other, than any specific title or topic. Whether they advocate violence or not: if doing so without comedy infavor, then comedy out-of-favor would justify their ethic.

Creating an independent thread for each banned sub or account to deliberate on their ideology within enforcing (what I'd call) a hypofae frequent mode allowing only one comment per a preset period. A long wait requires more information entropy from external sources to maintain ideological stance paired with attachment to a critical thread.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Saying "I think we should kill/eliminate those who disagree" is not a legitimate point of discussion that needs to be had on saidit. There is not a lot of complexity to this discussion.