SaidIt Survey : Would you mind if the SaidIt admins clean up the SUBS and/or other tinkering?

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You are the enemy Mr. Election rigger. I'll revote it. Too bad there's not many people here, maybe because of Jesus day, I think usually you would have got a decent response to a post like this.

I wish there was a built in voting mechanism, I don't know if upvoting or commenting is a better way to signify a vote. Probably upvoting.

Edit: Shit I get it. I'll re-anonymize it.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Glad you get it, regarding the "anonymous(ish)" votes versus open commented votes. I don't mind either way, though on a skeptic site I wonder how many folks could be swayed by a community leader's opinion, compared to other herd mentality sites.

I can't vote on my own comments so you're literally the only vote in the 7 hours on all 6 options. Meanwhile your recent "Just to add a bit of nuance" post 2 hours ago has 3 insightful votes.

You've stated that you're afraid of losing peoples trust. That's a valid concern, but I don't think it would be lost by cleaning up subs and tinkering with the database as long as you posted your progress, perhaps in excessive detail, with reasoned explanations and backup precautions just in case. You could even propose the changes before you do them to get feedback and/or consensus, rather than do (dramatic) changes and expect everyone to suck it the way corporations do it. It's easier to do it and ask permission later. But if you ask first you're earning points and perhaps folks won't want it so you might save yourself the time/energy.

On one hand I want to remain humble and say this vote is silly and my little post for proper noun CAPITALS doesn't matter. But on the other hand, as in the previous paragraph, messing with the process is messing with the system but it can potentially be done democratically and openly. Sometimes a paradigm shift is a good freeing thing, on many levels. So because of this importance, and because of this strange season, that's why I suggested well after the new years as the closing date. I'm not into numbers but they lined up in a couple weird ways too. If you think another date is better that's fine but ultimately it will get buried in time unless it gets pinned by an admin.

I think this may be the most important post I ever make on SaidIt for this site and its community. If people already trust enough to participate on this site and don't mind maintenance and tinkering then you may be free to improve it, quietly or openly, as you see fit, if/when they vote that trust is earned by not doing evil. If the skeptics are skeptical it may be another story. Or maybe you're correct not to meddle. It seems to me the only way to know for sure... is to pin this post. Pinned at the top is obnoxious for 3 weeks. A full page shows 25 posts. Maybe you can pin it at #13 in the middle or #25 at the bottom. Regular folks can learn to ignore it and occasional users will stumble on it. Pinning it is a big ask, but I'm not asking for me - I'm asking for the future of SaidIt and it's community, and how they/we trust the admins.

Also, if for whatever reason(s) you wanted to scrap this post altogether or rework and repost something similar in your own words to serve your own reasons, I don't mind that either. I'm after results/answers and democracy, not recognition. If there are better ways I'm open. Or feel free to suggest something for me to change on here. I'll do it.

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I can't vote on my own comments

This is on our todo list, it's all about regretting a comment and un-insightfullying yourself

Well you make a lot of great points. Since this is not a republic or a federation, I officially vote for mob rule by actual users. If everyone wants to edit some shit lets do it.

I like your pinning idea. What is crappy is that a sub can only have 2 pins. We're trying to get a home/all/subscribed sidebar of links going to feature posts, it'll be even better than a pin here.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't need to vote on my own comments. There are a couple comments I could hunt down and un-vote if I cared to, but it hadn't occurred to me before.

One of the common things the guard dogs on Wikipedia say is "this is not a democracy".

I'll have to look into the pinning on subs. I like the idea of sidebar link highlighting select content.

I'm almost tempted to learn whatever language this is all coded in, but I really have to try to focus on my animation project. And I want to embrace all FLOSS software for this open project. This means dropping Photoshop for GIMP and Illustrator for Inkscape. My next box (whenever I can afford it) will definitely be Mint Linux. And my biggest hurdle will be learning Blender 3D to replace all the other packages I actually know. Also, I'm afraid whatever open source compositing software is out there may not be too great. I hope I'm wrong, or else I'll just work around and with it the way we did in the old days.