Petition for mods of major subs to ban /user/fuzzbutt22 for censorship on /s/PinkPillFeminism by SuperConductiveRabbi in SaidIt

[–]theoracle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks d3rr I would really like to see this implemented as I think freedom of choice is what platforms are missing. I made a post on it https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/5aia/can_we_have_an_option_preferably_in_the_side_menu/ to see support and ideas. I know magnora7 is concerned it could turn the place into voat. But I feel that voat is what it is because of it's users and there censorship is used much like on the authoritarian left does to suppress the other side. This idea of mine hasn't really been tried thoroughly yet, so no one can be certain what it will produce. But I think because it aligns with people's natural rights like freedom of speech and choice then it will work well, for the same reason the concept of America worked well, freedom is the better way.

Maybe if you implement this and see an uptick in growth and it seems to work well, you can consider the more full idea.

And yes certain content like dox/illegal will need to be handled differently.

Thanks

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

freedom from censorship.

"less censorship" or "a wider overton window" might be more accurate.

anon: thought it was about creating an alternative to reddit's censorship.

m7: Well you thought wrong. This site used to be named antiextremes.com for a reason. It's not a free-for-all because we don't want to be voat either.

source

If you promote saidit as censorship-free, the people your edited comments bring will be disappointed.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]galaxybrain 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. This is simply a better way.

Petition for mods of major subs to ban /user/fuzzbutt22 for censorship on /s/PinkPillFeminism by SuperConductiveRabbi in SaidIt

[–]d3rr 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

that wouldn't be too bad to implement in this codebase. that's a cool halfway point between the choose your own mods (NAB) model and the reddit model. you might want an admin override for doxx/illegal comments.

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]theoracle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Use a relinking service or post the link in an image, preferably do it in multiple ways

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]Cindy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This comment has been deleted in an effort to raise awareness for reddit's rampant censorship. Why?

Reddit has banned innocuous subreddits, and threatened to ban the sub dedicated to Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, all while protecting actually-dangerous subs that post violent rape pornography. Reddit has consistently demonstrated a disdain for free speech and a disregard for its users' safety.

What can I do about this?

Join saidit at https://saidit.net. It's an alternative to reddit that promotes civil discourse and freedom from censorship.

Platform Preference by Edvin in SaidIt

[–]happysmash27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same. I didn't expect it to, but somehow it detected my relatively unknown VPN. Maybe it would work if I used another branch of it rather than its Swedish one. I usually browse on mobile because RedReader is an amazing app and the official SaidIt app is based on it, but occasionally browse on desktop too.

Petition for mods of major subs to ban /user/fuzzbutt22 for censorship on /s/PinkPillFeminism by SuperConductiveRabbi in SaidIt

[–]theoracle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the thing they don't seem censorship resistant at all. Well at least not how they are using them, as the amount of censorship going on makes reddit look mild. They are basically deleting ANY right wing opinion or user....

Would it be hard to implement an option in the side bar to make moderated comments either hidden, collapsed or revealed? I think that would be the best most simple implementation of my idea.

If you have that option, I think you will have an edge over ruqqus, which is growing at a crazy rate now.

Platform Preference by Edvin in SaidIt

[–]ALesbian 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unable to vote with a VPN but I use a tablet.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]theoracle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would like a check box/menu in the side bar to make moderated comments and posts, either of these options hidden, collapsed or revealed. These basic three options would be a start towards optional moderation. Let the readers choose what they want to see.

Platform Preference by Edvin in SaidIt

[–]wahala 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I voted. I'm old school and prefer to do most of my online activity from a desktop.

'Subsaidit' sounds weird; can we find an alternative name? by LarrySwinger2 in SaidIt

[–]Edvin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like this lol

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's site-wide.

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"To see this comment join me on saidit"

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They banned URL shorteners as well.

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've been testing around a bit. It looks like comments get hidden when you explicitly include a hyperlink to Saidit, but you can still include the text "https://saidit.net". That will then automatically become a hyperlink. Better take advantage of this.

New to Saidit so forgive me if I'm in the wrong spot, but I want to installed a copy of my hosting, but running into some issues. Hopign someone could help. by Lerry in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah some of the steps might already be completed (like presumably you don't need to install the operating system on the remote machine). Maybe if you're not sure if things are set up right to start downloading and installing SaidIt you can ask your hosting provider about those settings from earlier in the instructions.

New to Saidit so forgive me if I'm in the wrong spot, but I want to installed a copy of my hosting, but running into some issues. Hopign someone could help. by Lerry in SaidIt

[–]Lerry[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do have access to the remote machine, but didnt want to do anything till I asked here. I guess Ill follow directions and see how it works for me. Thanks.

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lots of subs block link shorteners

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

imo, please don't advertise saidit as censorship free. it censors less, or differently, but it doesn't not censor. b/c of pyramid of debate policy, and because of trying to not be like voat.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]NiceDickBro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How dare they remove the beautiful prose of shitskinned_faggot

Is it ever appropriate to merge subs? by x0x7 in SaidIt

[–]ElifromtheBook 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thesis: It should be made possible by an elected council, which has to peer-review the decision, before actually being able to discuss it. Only a majority of "wise enough" users should be a to participate in such a major decision. Final decision requires magnora7's and d3rr's approval.

I support this post completely.

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they detect the common ways to obscure it too ("saidit dot com" isn't enough)

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Breadcacti 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think no downvotes is good, but I think there should be just one like or upvote button. The funny insightful thing is honestly a bit confusing and not really good for all posts, some posts you want to upvote without saying it's funny or insightful.

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]JFVG 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you're using Reddit's formatting options to provide it as a clickable link, perhaps using a link shortener site could be an option, so you're not directly linking to this site.

Seilabhängung für moderne LED Deckenlampe in schwarz oder silber by cologneled in SaidIt

[–]ElifromtheBook 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wenn man Seile, Taue und Knoten beherrscht, muss man das nicht kaufen. Kaufen ist für Schafe.

Diese Werbung kann nur bei Hipstern, die nicht wissen welche Phase die Uhr gerade dieses Jahr geschlagen hat, ankommen.

Hipsterer oder richtige Geeks brauchen fast nichts kaufen, vor allem aber keinen zu teuren Bullshit, der sich dann nicht anders wiederverwenden läßt.

Dreht euren Quatsch (Materialkosten höchstwahrscheinlich deutlich weniger als 3 €), auf dem ihr sitzengeblieben seid, weil ihr da das große Geschäft fälschlicherweise darin gewittert habt, anderen Leuten auf anderen Webseiten an.

Hier werded ihr nicht genug Dummköpfe finden, die euren China-Import-Schrott kaufen!

Behämmerte Kölner: Denken - SCHON - wieder Sie haben das Rad neuerfunden. Sucht euch ein anderes Board, wo Ihr den Atze Schröder mimen könnt.

Mehr könnt ihr nämlich nicht.

You can shitpost on my sub /s/shitpost. by Fantastic-mastodon in SaidIt

[–]Cactus_Tree 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

B..b.. But I am a 30 year old virgin!

There's some censorship going on in the newly popular feminist subs and it needs to be openly addressed. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess we lived with IP2, so we'll live with their flip side GC.

'Subsaidit' sounds weird; can we find an alternative name? by LarrySwinger2 in SaidIt

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Saidtor for 88 days, amirite?

Banned from /s/altunitedkingdom for no discernible reason by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

bro, where are you, are you lost?

"saiditor for 8 days"

conservative socialist ideas have been in here from the get go. This isn't some whacked out leftist haven. Just been a flood of hardline left leaners invade recently, making the place look reddit style comfy for the looney left.

Just wait and you'll see truth, honesty and right wing awesomeness everywhere again.

Amazing how so many saidit virgins feel the need to tell everyone what saidit is. I'm starting to learn what 'entitlement' looks like

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

bwahah.

It used to be the premier discussion platform, and then the mechanisms, the votes, started being gamed, and then the upvote/downvotes hidden.

saidit's solution is elegant. Don't like it? can't stop others enjoying it. A group of whiney control freaks can't downvote into oblivion, the only recourse is to post good content and get it upvoted to slide other content, a much more intensive procedure

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/u/magnora7

I like these ideas. Mods can only perma delete if they flag with 'CP' or 'pron' or whatever. Just name calling (my specialty) would leave the deleted content retroactively accessible.

Would that be hard to do?

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]suckitreddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Downvotes are dumb. When you go to vote for a politician do you get to downvote other politicians you don't like?

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]Cindy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like it. Intriguing and not politically oriented.

I'll probably do exactly as you typed but I want to add something heartfelt to the end. Probably about banning the women's health sub, wish I could find more info on that. Also I might mention that reddit censored the saidit link itself, that could rustle some jimmies

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]Aureus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You could try putting a message like

"I have wiped my post history in protest of reddit's rampant censorship. For a better online community without censorship, check out https://saidit.net!"

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]Cindy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I absolutely intend to mention saidit as that's the point of my operation here. I'll try to obscure the URL somehow.

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]Cindy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Very good idea. Even if the link isn't blacklisted now it might be in the future.

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]Cindy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Censorship focus is a good idea. But to be transparent, my intention is to promote saidit. I couldn't care less what they think, I just want people to come here to boost the population. (You'd better believe I'm going to delete this post and this comment after I do the deed, lol)

But someone who would dismiss the censorship as "oh, well it's just right-wingers and transphobe feminists getting banned" probably can't be swayed anyways.

But this is me. I genuinely think that it's mostly far-right and transphobe content getting banned. Will it get worse, with more centrist content getting banned soon? Time will tell. I'm just here because I think reddit is annoying and scummy.

The Saidit.net Terms and Content Policy by magnora7 in SaidIt

[–]LoganBlade 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol imagine thinking kiddie diddling is free speech

The Saidit.net Terms and Content Policy by magnora7 in SaidIt

[–]LoganBlade 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's r/TransDIY now

'Subsaidit' sounds weird; can we find an alternative name? by LarrySwinger2 in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

me too

New to Saidit so forgive me if I'm in the wrong spot, but I want to installed a copy of my hosting, but running into some issues. Hopign someone could help. by Lerry in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would think it's probably pretty much the same, though I don't really have a whole lot of experience with this kind of thing. You're using the instructions here? You're accessing the host machine remotely and you haven't tried installing SaidIt yet?

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]iraelmossadreddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you might want to change the letters of saidit.net into number or symbols to get past spam filters

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Intuit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I love Reddit-style platforms because the presentation of comments is so dense and hierarchical, and there's grading of the comments.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Intuit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

On another similar site with much more lenient free-speech, with tens of thousands of upvoats I've made to others' comments, I've only done a couple hundred downvoats. So about 1% down. Of my voats for submissions, a little more than half a percent weren't upvoats. So not a very essential feature.

Technically it's the same. The point of the system is to allow a group effort at grading content so people with less time can focus on the best stuff. You don't need downvotes for this.

Welcome to Saidit.net! by magnora7 in SaidIt

[–]LoganBlade 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

good shit mate

New to Saidit so forgive me if I'm in the wrong spot, but I want to installed a copy of my hosting, but running into some issues. Hopign someone could help. by Lerry in SaidIt

[–]Lerry[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess I dont know where ot start. Do I follow the directions for installing it locally, or is there a different set of instructions I should use for installing it on a host

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They used to show both (actually they allowed RES to access that data through the API) and then one day about 3 years ago they just decided to remove it entirely, for no reason. I think it was making bot and shill activity too obvious, and they wanted to cover that up because those are the people who send reddit money

New to Saidit so forgive me if I'm in the wrong spot, but I want to installed a copy of my hosting, but running into some issues. Hopign someone could help. by Lerry in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What kind of issues are you running into?

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]reddugee 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can do this after you make the the comment. View your comments overview and below select “disable inbox replies”. You can view the response(s) and decide to comment. Muting responses is a big help to avoid the many argumentative, antagonistic and tiresome ones.

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People were talking about content being censored if it pointed to competitors or said stuff they didn't like. /u/d3rr had to rewrite the /r/redditalternatives list in a special way to get past their filters. Would they just remove all your comments if you changed them like that? I think the people at /s/debatealtright were having trouble sending out messages to former member directing them here because stuff was being censored. If you don't intend to mention SaidIt or another competitor maybe it would be left alone though idk.

Going to nuke my thousands of reddit comments with a saidit message. Need advice by Cindy in SaidIt

[–]Aureus 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Reddit has crossed the line. They have succumbed to a culture of censorship. We will never forget the day they took down /r/BigChungus."

More seriously, you might just make a generic statement about censorship. You could also say how the new reddit rules openly allow hate against "the majority". You could link to /r/WatchRedditDie or /r/Reclassified.

But someone who would dismiss the censorship as "oh, well it's just right-wingers and transphobe feminists getting banned" probably can't be swayed anyways.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]ALesbian 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The one thing I liked about Reddit was that under preferences you could select no email. I have already gotten a couple of ugly ones and I would rather not deal with them. Any chance that can be added?

Petition for mods of major subs to ban /user/fuzzbutt22 for censorship on /s/PinkPillFeminism by SuperConductiveRabbi in SaidIt

[–]d3rr 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Far lefties building censorship resistant platforms is a head scratcher for sure. Just like Mastodon.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]theoracle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you haven't you can read about my ideas for a better platform.

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/52rx/attention_magnora7_my_ideasolution/

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/54cp/can_we_make_moderation_optional_can_we_have/

https://ruqqus.com/post/tiz/optional-moderation

A user on ruqqus proposed a tagging system which I think is good and I will make a post on it.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fair point. I’d buy that for a dollar.

Petition for mods of major subs to ban /user/fuzzbutt22 for censorship on /s/PinkPillFeminism by SuperConductiveRabbi in SaidIt

[–]theoracle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I had a look at lemmy and it's extreme leftwing pro antifa stance is quite scary. I thought of federation as a good way to protect against plarforms that go bad, but what lemmy and it's friends are doing is just cutting off platforms they don't like from their fediverse, like with Gab....

I have been discussing my idea on ruqqus and a user there had some really good ideas for a tagging system as well as some blockchain stuff. I will make a post on the tagging as I think that's the way to implement my idea.

Attention magnora7: My idea/solution. by theoracle in SaidIt

[–]theoracle[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well that is what is happening at ruqqus, any sub/guild can pull from general. I think it's a stupid system, but only because much better can be done.

I have discussed this on ruqqus https://ruqqus.com/post/tiz/optional-moderation and a user 1010011010 had some excellent ideas for a tagging system. The basic premise is anyone can tag a post or comment, the tags themselves could describe moderation actions, or categorization etc, I would guess you could take it further that edits and the comments are tags as well. Users can then filter based on tag or who did the tag etc. So anyone is free to moderate by tagging posts or I guess users too. If you are good at moderating or say do it a lot I might use you to filter things. Everything would be public so anyone could audit.

I was going to copy paste the comments from 1010011010 but alas ruqqus is down as usual. I will make a post when it is up.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]goodknight 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I initially wanted down votes but it does feel nice not having to worry about getting them.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]theoracle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is stupid that deleted comments can't be revealed by anyone. If there's legal issues or dox then you could make that separate and actually delete proper, but that is probably an issue for admins. Process could go mod selects option for illegal or dox, admin reviews, if it's wrong then there is repercussions for the mod.

New user... Are there multiple saidit apps (as there are reddit apps). If so, which is the best? by TradLife4Life in SaidIt

[–]d3rr 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

SaidIt. Sorry, I called it RedReader because it is a fork of RedReader. You can also get the SaidIt app through FDroid.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]emissch 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah the no down vote thing is nice. it actually holds people accountable if they feel that strongly about something they dislike. if they dislike it that much they will need to actually make the effort to comment and voice their opinion, not just do a drive-by low effort thumbs down.

New user... Are there multiple saidit apps (as there are reddit apps). If so, which is the best? by TradLife4Life in SaidIt

[–]TradLife4Life[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wait so should I download RedReader, or Saidit.

Both apps are in the Google play store...

Is this where we are all heading? by [deleted] in SaidIt

[–]Suzieq 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

An outbreak apparently!

Is this where we are all heading? by [deleted] in SaidIt

[–]Aureus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's their rationale for doing this?

New user... Are there multiple saidit apps (as there are reddit apps). If so, which is the best? by TradLife4Life in SaidIt

[–]d3rr 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For now there's just RedReader. Someone could port more to SaidIt.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]DisgustResponse 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I disagree. There's a reason why reddit has supplanted traditional forums and imageboards as the premier Internet discussion platform. And that reason is filtering.

Say what you want about redditors, but the density of quality information is much higher on reddit than anywhere else. On a forum, I might have to dig through a 100-page thread to find what I want, or on 4chan, scroll past dozens of bait threads and shit posts before finding something worthwhile. That's a lot of extra time and mental energy.

Downvoting is an integral part of filtering unwanted content. "But, it just means people will censor unpopular opinions!" To which I would respond that this should be proof that people, by and large, have a revealed preference for conformity.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Get rid of all up-votes and down-votes.

GenderCritical sub still showing up on /s/all New. Is that intended behavior? by rdh2121 in SaidIt

[–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you're lumping 50% of human beings together when it comes to complicated issues, you're the sexist.

I've got nothing against the gendercritical crowd, though a lot of feminists of all kinds seem like they just hate men and have a victim complex, but regardless, thinking "men" are always trying to "put women in their place" is a really twisted view of the world and probably not one that leads to being happy.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Dragonerne 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was fuzzed and they likely weighted people differently depending on their politics - likely at a logarithmic scale.

'Subsaidit' sounds weird; can we find an alternative name? by LarrySwinger2 in SaidIt

[–]JFVG 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

To go with the 's' in the address, what about 'subject'?

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]JFVG 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's not just the downvotes which are a nuisance on Reddit, it's the fact that they're combined with the upvotes and presented as an overall figure. If something's got 800 upvotes and 1000 downvotes, it just looks like it's sitting there with 200 downvotes.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, that's a problem. The thing about deleted comments is that they are still be visible to the person who posted them, so they could quote them when alerting others to censorship. The problem then is that people can lie. The downside to making deleted posts visible is that there can be very good reasons to keep posts invisible (e.g. somebody posting content that would be a legal issue or present physical risk, such as doxing).

I'm inclined to look at patterns. If somebody makes a habit of making insulting posts then it was probably deserved. If somebody has a decent history of posting, even if their views are contentious, then I'd be inclined to side with them.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Trajan 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. I show my disapproval by ignoring dumb posts. The ability to downvote is on the vast majority sites pitched as a judgement of quality, rating the post on what it adds to the conversation. The reality is that most people view downvotes as a way to indicate disagreement. That belief wouldn't be a problem if downvotes were not also tied to visibility of posts. Happy to see them absent from Saidit.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Chipit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, there are people used to reddit who love love love their ~cancel~ downvote button. They really miss being able to control and hurt others. Downvote you to oblivion! Make your posts hidden by default! Muhahahaha!

Yeah that shit don't fly here. There literally isn't any code to do it. And the best part about it is it's going to drive away these ctrl-left losers.

I still type in reddit.com when I mean to come here sometimes and I instantly realize I'm in the wrong place by azaad in SaidIt

[–]Current_Year_Acct 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's weird opening my browser and not habitually typing reddit.com now. I used that site for hours almost every day for the last 12 years. Even days I didn't, I still had some subs I'd check up on throughout the day on my phone. I just hope something like saidit can take off for topics not related to politics or the reddit purge. I don't mind talking about that stuff, but there're a lot of miscellaneous subjects I used reddit for, but they've upped their ban evasion tools to basically need at least a VPN to use it. At least I assume, since I was ban evading some subs for years with many accounts, and over the course of a week, every single account I've ever had, including ones I never posted from, or hadn't in years, got permanently suspended. Same with some people I know who I don't think even were ban evading.

I still type in reddit.com when I mean to come here sometimes and I instantly realize I'm in the wrong place by azaad in SaidIt

[–]Seven7s 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, the stress of modern life anno 2017.

Edit: 2020

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Seven7s 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The mod logs are good but they don't show deleted comment content so that reduces transperancy.

Agreed. Eloquent people complained about being benned from the gender neutral sub for posting well-articulated comments.

Gender neutral mods: we only ban people who exclusively call or users cunts and add nothing to the conversation.

Users: hey, that's not what happened at all!

Mods: hey, anybody is free to check the logs

Me: i have no of verifying either statement.

I still type in reddit.com when I mean to come here sometimes and I instantly realize I'm in the wrong place by azaad in SaidIt

[–]Light_Aura 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah, it's awful.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]anon674435569 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Downvotes are toxic. People see a title they don't like or long text, and think nope I won't read that I'll just down vote. It wastes your time too all this clicking.

The mod logs are good but they don't show deleted comment content so that reduces transperancy.

I still type in reddit.com when I mean to come here sometimes and I instantly realize I'm in the wrong place by azaad in SaidIt

[–]Fantastic-mastodon 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The front page of Reddit is ridiculous.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey I never noticed the moderation log. Very cool.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]PATGUI 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is one thing I miss from the old reddit and it was upvote downvote ratio, they always said it was fuzzed but I don't buy that.

I've created a Subsaidit where people can discover or promote Subsaidits. by LarrySwinger2 in SaidIt

[–]LarrySwinger2[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Guys, this comment section isn't the place to advertise your sub. The title is a link to a subsaidit dedicated to that.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]hapigood 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish the creators and admins will stay community funded to ensure this is sustainable.

I still type in reddit.com when I mean to come here sometimes and I instantly realize I'm in the wrong place by azaad in SaidIt

[–]azaad[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No regrets here, Saidit is much more interesting. It can be uncomfortable and challenging but it never fails to be engaging, sometimes alarming so

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]Wahwah 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Indeed. I downvote the idea of having downvotes. The best thing and unique among the popular alternatives of Reddit is the lack of downvotes up here.

I still type in reddit.com when I mean to come here sometimes and I instantly realize I'm in the wrong place by azaad in SaidIt

[–]Wahwah 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

:(

you will get over it soon brotha/sista!

Hide entire subsaidits? by kallyr in SaidIt

[–]redditsabsenteedad 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This option desperately needs to be streamlined.

As a new user I was automatically subbed to hundreds, possibly thousands of subs (pages upon pages, it's insane) I want nothing to do with. The list to unsub is fucking ridiculously huge and every sub has to be clicked individually and there's a slight but annoying latency after each unsub.

I've been avoiding the entirety of saddit because of this one flaw.

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]azaad 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Oh its like public documentation of the moderation. Gotcha!

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What are the moderation logs?

The public moderation logs (they were private on reddit, so you never knew what was being removed until people made those moderation transparency sites like ceddit, etc). Like https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/about/log for this sub. (The link is next to the list of moderators in the sidebar of each sub)

The no-downvotes and the moderation log are nice. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]azaad 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I love it too. Magnora really learned from what worked well on Reddit and discarded what didn't. It is a noble effort.

"Where's the downvote! This sucks I want to downvote stuff."

So glad the mob doesn't get to shout out unpopular opinions. Every great idea, whether religious or technological, started with one person. The essence of freedom is to protect the minority, not on ethnic lines, but on an intellectual basis. In true service of freedom, each of us must protect the individual's capacity to hold an opinion contrary to every other person in the world.

And people are using the moderation logs. It's really neat to be able to see the moderation actions on a live sub with a nontrivial amount of moderation

What are the moderation logs?

Attention magnora7: My idea/solution. by theoracle in SaidIt

[–]ccccccc 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More thoughts: maybe moderation should be pull-based (pull content you want into the space), rather than filter-based (remove "bad" content). creates better incentives this way: people try to be worthy of getting something in, rather than getting mad if their stuff is removed or they're kicked out.

GenderCritical sub still showing up on /s/all New. Is that intended behavior? by rdh2121 in SaidIt

[–]filbs111 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This does seem to go against the described behaviour.

However, to a new user, "all" suggests that all subs will appear there. I like the idea of there being a default feed that's in the spirit of the site, in which all subs are open to debate by anyone (provided they aren't dicks about it, pyramid of debate etc). Perhaps a better label for this might be "free".

how much has saidit grown in these few days? by qwerty- in SaidIt

[–]theoracle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most people are politically homeless. In America a leader gets only 20% vote support leaving the other 80% asking WTF.

How the hell are the administrators and moderators not overwhelmed by the number of reports? by OffAndSphere in SaidIt

[–]theoracle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Speech is a physical thing. Removing it causes damage. Would you like me to remove you or your property?

There's some censorship going on in the newly popular feminist subs and it needs to be openly addressed. by ccccccc in SaidIt

[–]theoracle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

nope it's just 4 letters. Take your woke shit back to reddit.

I've created a Subsaidit where people can discover or promote Subsaidits. by LarrySwinger2 in SaidIt

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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