Pyramid of Debate Refutation and counter-argument seem like they should be always valid, even if moving 'down the pyramid'. Ad Hominem and Name calling should not be OK regardless of direction. Just my thoughts

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's how it is. An ad hominem thrown into an otherwise solid refutation will generally be looked over. The buzz words get noticed of course.

[–]Antarchomachus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This seems fair, honestly I'm not overly concerned with the bottom pyramid stuff. I try to stay in the upper tiers, and the lower stuff doesn't really bother me that much

I think my real concern is that if I consistently make refutations and counterarguments to content at the top of the pyramid, I could be accused of lowering the debate. I feel like these are reasonable good faith ways to respond even if I am technically moving down the pyramid.

Not a huge concern, I'm new here, and not overly worried about aggressive banning from what I've seen, just kinda wanted to call some attention to this after reading the rules

[–]AXXA 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The respect you have for the Pyramid of Debate is admirable. As an admin though, I only ever enforce no advocating violence and no name calling.

[–]Antarchomachus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hehe, not sure I can claim the respect for the Pyramid of Debate you attribute to me. I do respect the sanctity of good faith debate, but really I am just an idealist who doesn't like arbitrary rules. This is more about me saying, hey, I always argue in good faith, and this rule is arbitrary because I don't see how a valid counter-argument can be in bad faith, even if moving 'down the pyramid' so to speak.

From what I have seen, I am very unlikely to be banned for such an offense, just wanted people to think about this, seeing as this site places an emphasis on free expression, and good faith debate.