Just Say No to Being Umbrella-Termed ("LGBTQ+" and "Queer")

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[–]tokinjedi 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

why do people feel the need to label themselves?

[–]KCStuffedAnimal 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

It's how we make sense of each other, and the world. It's also how we sort ourselves into communities. Labels are something we have to live with, but it's important that they be accurate. That's why it's necessary to clap back at misleading identifiers.

[–]tokinjedi 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

i live in a community where we dont label each other outside of neighbor. no matter orientation or race. i play vidya, i dont label myself as gamer. i am into anime, comics, and such and dont label myself as geek. i repair electronics for a living but dont label myself a nerd. i dont get it.

[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I grew up in Quaker Communities so my experience has mostly been the same. It took me a long time and a lot of pain to understand the need/desire to label and “fit in.” Weak, pained people like George Soros his ilk in the “woke” zombie horde operate by withholding respect in order to gain power and control. “The Secret” is that when someone submits to their “respect,” is when that person actually gives away their own power.

Years later, I’m so much more amazed at the true strength of the communities that have the intelligence and ability to operate by genuinely respecting the individual.

[–]Sigterminator 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some people can’t help but label everything. It’s the lens they see the world through. But it is definitely not something everyone does.

[–]72ndGender 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Narcissism is the answer to most questions about human nature.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Do well to remember where the term “Narcissism” comes from. It is an external observation of leftist pseudoscientism and just another label. It does nothing to address the internal state. “Narcissists” are universally weak and pained people attempting to manipulate their external world because they lack internal strength.

[–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Now I want to read more about it. And the story of Narcissus since it's been a couple decades.

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm glad my comment pushed you in that direction. We get bombarded with these pop psychology terms and they all too often offer easy outs. I'm no fan of Scientology but I appreciate that they are the only ones who offer a real critique of modern Psychiatry. While I've certainly been helped by Psychiatrists and Psychologists in my time, all power, imho, must be checked.

Also, while Scientology stole its main concepts, it stole it's main concepts from Charles Berner -- one of the few modern Adepts able to actually give individuals the gift of Enlightenment through his intensive concept of the "dyad."

Freud, of course, invented modern psychiatric concepts of narcissism. Mostly he just liked naming things after Greek myths. All these stories -- Icarus, Sisyphus, Narcissus, etc -- they're warning stories. But told by whom? To whom? And for what reason?

I think that is the thing you picked up on that we all learn to look at more deeply as we age -- that there is an internal component all too often ignored in modern hot takes. It's easy to condemn an external individual as X, Y, or Z. But how does someone who identifies with those traits address them within themselves?

[–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Solid comment. I agree that psych terms get overused and get grouped in with modern day "intellectual" name calling. Right up there with racist, sexist, anti-semite, etc... True or not, they do this to stifle honest conversation and debate. It's no different than name calling as a kid, but they get to hide being the appearance of criticism instead of deliberate insulting.

And, like you, I have a fuckton of criticism towards modern day psychology/psychiatry. It's just population control and behavior control in the end. Sure, some good things come of it. But I doubt that the average goal is to actually help an individual. My deepest criticism is with marriage counseling, but I won't get into that. Actually, that might be my second deepest criticism. Psychiatrists prescribing meds to people that just need to change their lifestyle or get medical treatment for endocrinological problems is probably number one for me. It's criminal in my mind.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My perspective is that people desire a sense of belonging. Especially during our vulnerable, formative high school and college years, people who feel or present themselves “differently” many times look around at the “jocks” or the “cool kids” and see more perfect worlds they wish they could part of. This is when manipulative ideologues are able to hand them easy answers by saying, “oh look, here’s a group for you to belong to!”

This is the same way that gangs prey on kids. In fact, I’ve seen several articles around web that are noticing similarities between the ways that criminal gangs operate/recruit/control and the way Soros and his filthy woke SJW ilk recruit vulnerable LGBTQ.

I myself was very nearly recruited in such a way. I’ve always been an individual with little desire to fit in so I was always different. I wasn’t so different that I “identified” or dyed my hair blue, as one fellow student once predicted I would (jokes on him — he married the first woman who fucked him and is stuck in a loveless marriage with an angry dyke. Hopefully for him, she leaves and takes half his money sooner than later).

But I was different enough that my SJW friends (and believe me I’ve mistakenly had a lot of them) INCESSANTLY harassed me to “come out of the closet” or “admit who I was” well into my 30’s. It’s been the SJW’s who have told me I was gay from a very young age. On the flip side, I played two years on the football team in high school and have always maintained a small circle of “jock” friends. While I’ve never been “accepted” and most keep some leery distance, I’ve always been respected and my “identity” never questioned.

This is why I have great empathy for anyone in the LGBTQ community. In fact, I have two dear, sweet “gay” friends who are in fact married to each other and who each separately confided in me (while very drunk) that all they ever did was suck each other’s dicks and the only reason they were together was because they were the only other person they had found who was also terrified of anal sex, vaginas, and women. I’ve seen such hidden sentiment all too common, like my “lesbian” (former — I said faggot one too many times for her new lesbian wife) friend who would have sex with literally anyone but “could only give her heart” to a woman.

This is why this “movement” or “organization” or whatever it is, is a sham, a dangerous and degrading sham, has long outlived whatever purpose it might once of served, and should be abolished, ignored, or abandoned.