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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Decentralized services do exist, the problem is nobody uses them. I've variously tried, but it's much like trying to host your own IRC channel or discord server. Nobody ever shows up, and everywhere else bans you from advertising. I have always had the same problem trying to use encrypted services like secure P2P chat programs. People just... don't care.

[–]SeasideLimbs 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People just... don't care.

The problem is that the spaces which now engage in incredible censorship are the ones where you find the most media and the most people. Anyone who hasn't been the victim of Big Tech bias or isn't interested in issues of (de-)centralization won't care enough yet to leave those spaces. And that's most people at the moment.

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    Riot.im is one example, there were some like Aether that are more like what you might be looking for. Of course I've looked at Mastodon and others. By "everywhere else" I mean advertising that there are these decentralized services on other platforms, most of the time. And in general it's really hard to start your own group doing anything. So far in life I've found it less bothersome just to do things by myself.

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      Zeronet looks like what I've been looking for, other than Tor or I2P and whatnot. But the main issue I've always found with decentralized services and cryptography is... the dark side. I absolutely will not open myself up for legal liabilities to host or participate in them, just for my own safety. Not to mention sanity. Arguments are one thing, horrible shit is another, if you get my meaning. I really wish Aether had web front ends as well, and as it is remains the primary reason it's not popular.

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        [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It would be interesting if for saidit's user block feature that we want to build, if we could have shared block lists, and like popular block lists people could subscribe to if they wanted.