More movies cancelled for transphobia. The Big Lebowski: "Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost? Isn't that what makes a man?" The Dude: "Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles."

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

The answer is no.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

"Isn't that what makes a man?" "Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles."

Explain how that's not transphobic. It clearly is. Not all men have testicles.

Mrs. Doubtfire has the infamous scene. You know it. When Mrs. Doubtfire is caught by one of the Lawrence boys peeing standing up. When Daniel’s kids discover Mrs. Doubtfire is not a cisgendered woman, their first response is to threaten to call the police and assault her. Many trans women have reportedly been called “Mrs. Doubtfire” mockingly.

https://www.ranker.com/list/why-mrs-doubtfire-sucks/jacob-shelton

“Violence against trans people, especially trans women of color, is on the rise, and this is due in part to our culture’s assumptions that trans people are sneaky, lying, or perverted. We can’t change the ideas that were propagated by our industry in the past, but we can keep them from existing in the future.”

https://www.change.org/p/remove-mrs-doubtfire-the-musical-from-the-2019-2020-season

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Who's side are you on? Not all men have testicles? Being born with testicles makes you a male, even if you chop em off or lose them to mischance (or misuse) you are still a male.

I don't give a shit what that article says. I can purchase the Big Lebowski through many different stores, online and in real life. Nothing has been cancelled. If it ever does, why would I give a shit? The Big Lebowski is a nihilistic flick. One of the few things I truly want expunged from this planet is nihilism.

Plus, it's not transphobic to be against trans people. I feel no fear when confronted with trans people. I feel pity, compassion, and honest confusion. I don't like that we use these terms so poorly.

Pedophiles don't love children, they rape them. Calling someone "transphobic" doesn't mean they are scared of trans. Disingenuous language bothers me, ol Chippy. I argued this with you pretty early on, I think.

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    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    No, this is Good Burger apparently, where he's a dude, she's a dude, and we're all dudes HEY

    [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

    Plus, it's not transphobic to be against trans people.

    You heard it here, folks.

    Say, how about getting up under your own name and saying this out loud? In front of HR at work? Or a bias response team if you're at school?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

    I do this irl and I don't blanch at stupidity

    [–]Comatoast 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Damn. That's some luck. Women are crucified for that shit.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    It's not luck, and show me ONE "crucified" woman who called out trans people. You mean somebody like JK Rowling? She is alive and well, not strung up or lynched. Most people roll over when confronted by an internet mob, or when confronted by antagonizers like u/Chipit. If you come across stupidity, or mindlessness, call it out for what it is, don't put your head down so you and your own can feel good and safe, and don't exaggerate. Try to use careful language that actually fits the situation.

    [–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You know what? My apologies for replying to the straight up comments line on s/all. I didn't read the full stream of context there about your complaint being with people exaggerating word use, and that was my mistake. A hilarious mistake, but still.

    That said, JK has lots of money to defend her livelihood. The average person can't take a chance on having their ability to work revoked for sharing an unpopular opinion, not to mention being shamed out of social groups andpissing on any chances for networking. Personally, I don't take too many threats seriously over the internet, but people are rapidly getting ballsier about exactly what lengths they'll go to so that they can get their point across.

    [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Rachel Ara, Vaishnavi Sundar, Meghan Murphy, Cassie Jaye. More than I can remember. Wow, you really don't see this, do you? That's what censorship does. It works. It keeps you from knowing just how awful cancel culture really is, and how many people get hurt by it. They (you) think you're on the side of the righteous, when in fact being against people being able to speak their minds pretty much screams "evil".

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I've made many comments about my personal beliefs, Chipit. I want there to be a place for everybody, I don't support cancelling things or people. If twitter or Facebook or reddit does that, stop using them and boycott them. As it stands, I can go buy TBL and Harry Potter and may other "controversial" "cancelled" media and either buy it or take it in for free.

    And I sure as hell don't support you. Please, put your socks up your butthole and have some safe sex with your boyfriend. I have no time for you.

    [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Please, put your socks up your butthole and have some safe sex with your boyfriend.

    What is with you people and your feeling that you can use homophobic insults whenever you want? What the hell? How do you violate your own values like that?

    [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    Yeah, that's a load of crap.

    What's so wrong with denouncing transphobes? Not all men have testicles, just like not all women have ovaries. You're a far leftist, I don't get the disconnect here. You should be all over this.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    You can touch yourself later to your knowledge of me, Chipit. I call out stupidity and mindlessness when I see it, and yeah, it causes me a lot of grief, but it is worthwhile. I'm not a far leftist, my guy, but you can assume whatever you want about me. It'll make your fapping fantasy that much better if you let your imagination run wild.

    [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    OK, let's try a few quick questions, all of which should be easily answerable:

    Is the social justice movement a good thing, or warmed-over Marxism?

    Is the USA the most racist country in the world?

    Do all men have testicles?

    Is lived experience is the primary way in which knowledge can be obtained?

    What's 2+2?

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      [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      That's a man, baby.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Touch your fanny, Chipit. You obviously don't recall arguing with me a few weeks ago.

      The social justice movement is the co-opting of an entire generations worth of socially-minded people. It's a travesty, and yes, it sounds a lot like the rise of Marxism.

      I don't think you can graph out racism like that. Plenty of places are racist, and America isn't any different. We have horrible laws concerning gypsies, and we have horrible perspectives taught to us by schools and media (movies and musicians, mostly) about whites, blacks, and any other color on this planet. Both the left and the right have fallen for the same influential ideas which have crippled your ability in interacting with other races unless they are in your political party. Sad.

      The only men who don't have testicles are those unfortunate few who lost theirs to mischance, or who decided to lop em off (trans). A man is someone who is born.... A man. You cannot change that.

      You don't know how to experience objective reality, few of us do. Don't act like you know anything, Chipit.

      Your mom.

      [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      A man is someone who is born.... A man. You cannot change that.

      This is transphobia, full stop. But you knew that already.

      [–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      There's a difference between pedophiles and child molesters js. Not all pedos are child molesters and vice versa.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      There is no love involved, period. The word is misleading.

      [–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      I didn't say there was? I was just stating that there was a difference between pedos and child molesters due to the "they rape them" part of your previous comment.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      A pedophile and a child molester are seen as the exact same thing these days. Same with transphobe/homophobe and someone who is morally against these things. My argument with Chipit stems from this.

      There is no love involved between people are are called pedophiles and children, just like there is no fear between myself and trans person, so these words should not be used to try and describe molesters or anti-trans/gay people. I will argue with people over their disingenuous language all day, because the words we use matter. Maybe I am not explaining myself very well, which just goes to show that word usage and language is really vital when explaining world-views and such.

      [–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Okay, I get what you're saying now but still... I don't know what to tell you, mate. I mean, until more accurate words/terms are created, those will be used (especially by majority of society) for time being.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      yes, but it changes through people discussing it. I agree, until new more accurate words are found, folk will keep using the inaccurate words by necessity.

      [–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      True, true. I mean for pedos, there's been this new (?) Term that has been used more recently. "MAP" also known as Minor Attracted Person. Then I know for things such as homophobia, there's been terms like biasness against homosexuals (especially since phobia has to do with fear).

      But yeah, people will continue using it what's available. Not only that, even if more accurate terms came about, you have to get them out of the neologism zone and into day-to-day use.