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[–]Drizzt 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

is it better to ignore echo chambers like this or engage? and if you engage, how?

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

At this point I think the best way to destroy these echo chambers is to divert the people in them to more open sites.

You can't fight them ideologically when they can just ban you the moment you step over some imaginary line. They control the information flow as long as you use their subreddit. I say it's worth abandoning, telling everyone why, and then telling people about alternatives.

I think that's the most effective way to open the information spigot, in my opinion.

[–]Drizzt 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

in this context, how would you go about explaining why the New Green Deal is such a volatile action? it seems to me that we've already past the precipice where if you disagree with the group then your wrong(from a broader picture than the green deal thing), instead of being able to disagree and then discuss. then, if you're wrong you're criminalized and counted as invalid. and i cant feel but the only answer is to abandon completely or to fight outright, both of which are failures.

... interested in what you think. thanks!

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I know what you mean. I don't know either. I guess the only solution is to make noise, to counteract the programming. Some people will hate you for it, but those people are asleep anyway, and if one wakes up because of you then they will be thankful.

The New Green Deal not be a bad thing, who knows. I don't really know much about it tbh. But I do get wary when people are using fear-based intimidation tactics to force through legislation and wars and stuff.

I think the important thing is to say what you really believe. To be silenced is to take yourself out of the equation, which those in power would be very happy with. But don't cause yourself undue stress, if you can avoid it. It's a balancing act. That's how I see it, anyway.