Reddit thinks the border crisis is fake

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[–]online_username 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

So the official reddit "ModTeam" of this sub comes in and states their personal opinion on the subject as irrefutable fact that no one is allowed to disagree with? Then for good measure repeats an anti white trope about "white supremacy", that again, no one is allowed to disagree with, and even couches this view as your "patriotic duty"?

How much do you want to bet the mod team of "whitepeopletwitter" are mostly Jews, just like the owners of reddit.

[–]someboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

03:53 @BonZomvi We're nazis
03:53 tommm nazis?
03:53 @BonZomvi 卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐
03:53 @BonZomvi Yea
03:53 tommm for real?
03:53 @BonZomvi real shit 卐
03:53 @BonZomvi We nazi, fascist, racist
03:53 tommm what does that mean, i read stories, but i dont really know.
03:54 @BonZomvi Mang
03:54 @BonZomvi How old r u
03:54 @BonZomvi Do u even have an education
03:54 tommm 24
03:54 @BonZomvi nigga did u live under a rock for 24 years
03:54 tommm i almost have my bachelors in compsci.
03:54 @BonZomvi U don even know history?
03:55 tommm yeah, but i did not know that nazis exist in modern times.
03:55 @BonZomvi lol
03:55 @BonZomvi We'd be considered nazis for our viewpoints
03:56 @BonZomvi U don kno about the neo-nazis in Ukraine?
03:56 @BonZomvi Or what we call it, Jewkraine
03:56 @BonZomvi Or Hoholkraine
03:56 tommm sorry, i dont know.
03:56 @BonZomvi don worry
03:56 @BonZomvi Just heil and go on

[–]Hematomato 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

That is a perfectly reasonable position to take in a discussion, but it is not an acceptable way for a moderation team to behave - to say "This subreddit has an ideological stance on what's happening at the border and we will not entertain any dissent or evidence to the contrary."

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

There's nothing wrong with the post or the comment by the mod team. One can see the border immigration problem in a much broader, accurate context than to say that there is a (southern) border crisis. As noted in the Twitter comment - there are no massive lines of people crossing in spots that are easy to locate. Migrants are entering from all US borders, in different ways. Entry points at the southern border are numerous, stretching across several states. The GOP have been and will be lying about this constantly, trying to paint a picture of hordes of zombie-like poor people ammassed in a specific place, like locusts that will devour everything in their path. The Reddit post and comment are accurate because the GOP are spreading this disinformation about long lines at a southern border crossing with non-white, ravaging monsters swarming the area. It's racist dogwhistle campaigning of the worst kind. The Trump simping portion of the GOP could have signed the recent bipartisan bill that was for the deportation of illegal immigrants, but they did not. They're lying scum. As usual, they're creating problems for the 99%.

[–]Hematomato 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

So you share the mod team's view of the situation. That's fine. You're welcome to it.

What's wrong is that the mod team is announcing that this view will be enforced on the subreddit. They're saying: if you think there is a border crisis - whether that's because you've read a little about it, studied it in depth, or because you live nearby and have experienced things, whatever - then you're a racist, and we hate you, and you're not welcome to speak here.

I find that to be entirely despicable behavior.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

I didn't say I share the same view. I wrote that there is nothing wrong with their approaches, in the post or among the mods.

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Your post was very much about your view, which seemed to be essentially the same as theirs.

If you see nothing wrong with the approach of banning anyone who doesn't share your view, well, I guess we just don't share fundamental values at all.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Do you know if they banned someone who disagreed? I didn't know that sub existed until today. They can have their opions. Reddit lets mods voice their opinions. Larger subs should follow strict rules, but this smaller sub is unimportant.

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

When you post as a mod, using a mod account, you are communicating the official position of the subreddit. They are very clearly saying that the official position of the subreddit is that all people who think a border crisis exists are racists, and they ban racists.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You're barking up the wrong tree.

That specific sub makes fun of "white people twitter". Read the posts and comments. The mods and the community there are of the same mindset. There's also no evidence that they've banned anyone who merely disagreed. Rules are listed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter

There are PLENTY of other subs you can enjoy if you don't like the mods' and users' opinions in that specific sub. They often - APPROPRIATELY - make fun of assholes. It's part of the reason for the sub. You can say you don't agree. Try it. Twitter is run by a far right asshole. Any sub about Twitter should HONESTLY address the fascist fuckery at Twitter.

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There are PLENTY of other subs you can enjoy if you don't like the mods' and users' opinions in that specific sub

There are not. That was true eight years ago, but today, every sub enforces a specific ideology, and the site admins remove moderators who won't enforce that ideology, and ban subs that don't conform to it.

I was on Reddit long enough to see their slide from "open discourse" to "everyone needs to believe the exact same thing or you're banned."

Twitter is run by a far right asshole.

Musk is actually pretty centrist. He believes in free speech, and these days, that alone is enough to get you labeled a "far right asshole." Think about that.

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    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Nah Twitter is still full of overly sensitive snow flakes who don't like their opinions or views challenged and you will get suspended or banned for the dumbest shit still. Some of them come here for the hopes of being able to have an open and honest discussion about the more controversial topics without fear of being banned for not having the same opinion as the vast majority of the users. Twitter always has been and always will be a carefully cultivated mindset. I honestly don't know what's worse, Twitter or Reddit.

    [–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    We're discussing a Reddit sub that makes fun of right-wing Twitter posts. Hematomato is mad at the satire sub's mods for being partisan. But it's a partisan sub, and we've seen no evidence of them banning users who disagree in a civil manner. There are plenty of right-wing subs on Saidit that have banned users who diagreed.

    [–]DETTYLOVESGRAVY 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    the official position of the subreddit is that all people who think a border crisis exists are racists

    try blazing across the border into saudi and see how that works for you.

    [–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Probably not well, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.

    [–]DETTYLOVESGRAVY 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    i am the senior mod for a sub, the posts and comments are so computer generated, omg.

    i enjoy watching the shitshow, but i never engage the bots.

    [–]jokerjoker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There's nothing wrong with the post or the comment by the mod team. One can see the border immigration problem in a much broader, accurate context than to say that there is a (southern) border crisis. As noted in the Twitter comment - there are no massive lines of people crossing in spots that are easy to locate. Migrants are entering from all US borders, in different ways. Entry points at the southern border are numerous, stretching across several states. The GOP have been and will be lying about this constantly, trying to paint a picture of hordes of zombie-like poor people are ammassed in a specific place, like locusts that will devour everything in their path. The Reddit post and comment are accurate because the GOP are spreading this disinformation about long lines at a southern border crossing with non-white, ravaging monsters are swarming the area. It's racist dogwhistle campaigning of the worst kind. The Trump simping portion of the GOP could have signed the recent bipartisan bill that was for the deportation of illegal immigrants, but they did not. They're lying scum. As usual, they're creating problems for the 99%.

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    [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    It's gaslighting. They're constructing a false narrative that since there isn't a constant horde of people crossing at every single place along the 1,254 mile long border that the border crisis is a made up issue.

    We see how bussing a mere few thousand of these immigrants chokes major cities.

    And the leftwing media acknowledges it's happening. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/whats-behind-the-influx-of-migrants-crossing-the-u-s-southern-border

    It's bizarre to suddenly claim this is a fictional issue.

    [–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    It's semantic, is what it is. It's the question of "What is a border crisis."

    We have a significant uptick of attempted immigration from Central America. That's happening. Does it constitute a "border crisis"? Well, that's really a term with no objective meaning. Something is a crisis if you believe it's a crisis.

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    I would call it a crisis when it starts effecting the citizens of the country they are coming into illegally in a negative way, which is what it is currently doing in a lot of border states. Which is why Texas is actually doing something about it, since our federal government refuses to acknowledge it's a problem.

    [–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    I think what a lot of people are questioning is the ratio of "People affected negatively by the uptick in immigration" versus "People driven into a frenzy by a fear-and-ideology based media, who are actually being affected by their own media consumption."

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    But if mass illegal immigration is having a negative impact on the people who live here legally, and putting a financial strain on the areas they live in and causing property damages, then yes it should be classified as a crisis. It doesn't matter if it directly impacts everyone or just a part of the population, the fact that it is happening at all is the thing we should be focused on, and the fact that a lot of people are trying to either ignore it or sweep it under the rug because they either don't want to believe it's a problem, or they don't care because it isn't directly effecting them or damaging their property. It's funny how people tend to change their points of view when things start effecting them personally rather than when they are just hearing about it from other people.

    [–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    But if mass illegal immigration is having a negative impact on the people who live here legally, and putting a financial strain on the areas they live in and causing property damages, then yes it should be classified as a crisis.

    Immigration, like just about everything else, has positive and negative effects. Any influx of poor people will also bring some of the problems associated with poverty. But without those poor people, our agricultural sector would collapse and the cost of food would skyrocket.

    To me, a "crisis" implies severe and overwhelmingly negative effects, but - well, like I said, it's semantic. You say a "crisis" is anything having a negative impact and causing financial strain; I say that by that definition, there are millions of things out there that could rise to the level of a crisis.

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    without those poor people, our agricultural sector would collapse and the cost of food would skyrocket.

    This isn't true and has been something democrats have been pushing and it's completely inaccurate and very deceptive. Because what they are not telling you is that because farmers are using illegal's it is driving the wages down for everyone else, because they are willing to work for less. Look around you, our food prices have already doubled since COVID and there is absolutely no good reason for them to still be this high other than corporate greed. Illegals do a lot more harm to our labor industry that they ever will good. You can't look at just one side of the coin on this, you have to look at the whole picture, something Democrats don't want people doing. Because if people had all the information they would probably feel a lot different. No politician want's people who are well informed, because well informed people make good decisions, good decisions would mean a lot less profit for corporate entities in turn affecting the bank accounts of many a politician.

    [–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    This isn't true and has been something democrats have been pushing and it's completely inaccurate and very deceptive. Because what they are not telling you is that because farmers are using illegal's it is driving the wages down for everyone else, because they are willing to work for less.

    It could not be more true.

    You know, I was reading about graveyard shift slaughterhouse workers the other day. Americans eat about 10,000,000,000 animals per year. That's a lot of animals that need to be slaughtered. Which means we need a whole lot of slaughterhouses. After a day of slaughtering hundreds of animals, the blades are covered in gallons of coagulating, biohazardous blood. Which need to be cleaned, or else there's going to be contagious disease spreading through the population.

    So every day, a crew goes in there with caustic chemicals. They work from 10:00pm to 6:00am. It's cost-prohibitive to air condition a slaughterhouse, so in the summer it gets up to 90 degrees. The smell is stomach-turning.

    The slaughterhouse owners say that zero American citizens apply for these jobs. See, in America, we teach our kids they can be anything they want. All they have to do is study hard and go to college, and they can be a doctor or an engineer or an astronaut. No American citizen is willing to spend their lives staying up all night and sleeping during the day so they can spray irritating chemicals all over disgusting coagulated blood.

    You'd probably have to pay $40/hr to get American citizens to do that job - plus you'd have to shorten the shifts, provide health insurance, air condition the slaughterhouses, follow OSHA regulations, etc. We're currently paying more like $10/hr to desperate immigrants and we don't do any of that.

    You're worried about food prices doubling? Deport all our agricultural workers and get ready to see them go up tenfold. And on top of that, we wouldn't have nearly enough labor left for the things we currently take for granted, like elder care.

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The slaughterhouse owners say that zero American citizens apply for these jobs

    That is what they are telling you. Do you just trust everything someone says, without proof? I know I don't. A lot of these jobs are declining because Ai is taking over. Why pay someone to do something when you can have a machine do the same thing, for less money and it's faster.

    The reason why most American's don't want farm work, is because they are overworked and underpaid. They are overworked and underpaid because they are illegals and they don't want to rock the boat and demand better wages, benefits and more rights as workers. How can you not see how this hurts the industry as a whole. Like I said you're looking at one side of a multifaceted situation.

    You're basically saying that we should use illegals as slaves per your comment: "You'd probably have to pay $40/hr to get American citizens to do that job - plus you'd have to shorten the shifts, provide health insurance, air condition the slaughterhouses, follow OSHA regulations, etc. We're currently paying more like $10/hr to desperate immigrants and we don't do any of that."

    Sorry but that is a shitty way to look at it, and a very wrong way in a lot of aspects. You're also overlooking the fact that Work Visas are a thing and a lot of people who are on Work Visas are also being given the short end of the stick because of the illegals taking over the positions they got their Visas for in the first place. You're displacing legal workers for illegals so we can pay them less and work them in terrible working conditions. Hell why not just bring back slavery while were at it, since it will be even cheaper. /s

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    To me, a "crisis" implies severe and overwhelmingly negative effects, but - well, like I said, it's semantic.

    There were 2.5 MILLION illegals that came across our borders just last year alone. We're not talking a few thousand here or there. We are talking MILLIONS. Just in Texas alone we have upwards of 12,000 people per day crossing. Yes that IS a crisis.

    [–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    So what? There are 80 MILLION tourists visiting the U.S. every year. Just because something is a big number doesn't make it a crisis.

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Tourists are not destroying farmers crops, letting their livestock loose and breaking into their homes. Tourists are not coming over here without any money and putting a strain on the economy. Use your brain please. Those two things are nothing alike at all, and I think you know that.

    [–]BOTagshgdfiuagsdfihg 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    03:53 @BonZomvi We're nazis 03:53 tommm nazis? 03:53 @BonZomvi 卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐 03:53 @BonZomvi Yea 03:53 tommm for real? 03:53 @BonZomvi real shit 卐 03:53 @BonZomvi We maga, nazi, fascist, racist 03:53 tommm what does that mean, i read stories, but i dont really know. 03:54 @BonZomvi Mang 03:54 @BonZomvi How old r u 03:54 @BonZomvi Do u even have an education 03:54 tommm 24 03:54 @BonZomvi nigga did u live under a rock for 24 years 03:54 tommm i almost have my bachelors in compsci. 03:54 @BonZomvi U don even know history? 03:55 tommm yeah, but i did not know that nazis exist in modern times. 03:55 @BonZomvi lol 03:55 @BonZomvi We'd be considered nazis for our viewpoints 03:56 @BonZomvi U don kno about the neo-nazis in Ukraine? 03:56 @BonZomvi Or what we call it, Jewkraine 03:56 @BonZomvi Or Hoholkraine 03:56 tommm sorry, i dont know. 03:56 @BonZomvi don worry 03:56 @BonZomvi Just heil and go on 03:57 tommm are you offended that i am gay 03:57 @BonZomvi I would rather you not exist but you are here so eh 03:58 @detty an influx of "new users" talking exactly like Ed 03:58 tommm ok, i guess. 03:58 @detty not suspicious at all 03:58 @BonZomvi 🤷‍♂️ 03:58 @BonZomvi who knows lol 03:58 @BonZomvi At least some banter 03:59 tommm nice to meet you, i need sleep, its 2am. 03:59 @BonZomvi sleep is for the weak 03:59 tommm i am weak. 03:59 @BonZomvi ofc, since u're homo 03:59 @BonZomvi Diddling buttholes is not healthy 04:00 tommm no, but i like it, always have.

    03:53 @BonZomvi We're nazis
03:53 tommm nazis?
03:53 @BonZomvi 卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐
03:53 @BonZomvi Yea
03:53 tommm for real?
03:53 @BonZomvi real shit 卐
03:53 @BonZomvi We maga, nazi, fascist, racist
03:53 tommm what does that mean, i read stories, but i dont really know.
03:54 @BonZomvi Mang
03:54 @BonZomvi How old r u
03:54 @BonZomvi Do u even have an education
03:54 tommm 24
03:54 @BonZomvi nigga did u live under a rock for 24 years
03:54 tommm i almost have my bachelors in compsci.
03:54 @BonZomvi U don even know history?
03:55 tommm yeah, but i did not know that nazis exist in modern times.
03:55 @BonZomvi lol
03:55 @BonZomvi We'd be considered nazis for our viewpoints
03:56 @BonZomvi U don kno about the neo-nazis in Ukraine?
03:56 @BonZomvi Or what we call it, Jewkraine
03:56 @BonZomvi Or Hoholkraine
03:56 tommm sorry, i dont know.
03:56 @BonZomvi don worry
03:56 @BonZomvi Just heil and go on

    /SLAPS

    [–]twolanterns 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    leftards think new voters beholden to their sugardaddy policies will set them for the future

    reddit is run by leftards who constantly show their bias and actively censor those who oppose their agenda

    I do wonder what will become of them when its demonstrated they have assisted the coverup of dem treason.

    [–]SaltyTexan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I would invite this person to come down to Texas and tell me that it isn't an invasion. I would also then insist that they open their home and bank account to help these "asylum seekers" since it is the patriotic thing to do.

    [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Especially considering we had a massive voter turn out for the Salvadorian election.

    https://abc13.com/houston-traffic-highway-us-59-kirby-drive-salvadoran-general-election-large-crowds-massive-line-voter-turnout/14386006/

    [–]Entropick 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They've moved people who were solid left to hard right (me). SPREAD IT ON.

    [–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    I've seen videos of the people at the border, and I've seen the reporting numbers, but I assume, with how wide the border is... If we're just talking about Mexico and the US?... You could roll a car along it on any given day of the week and not spot a person trying to cross. In fact, unless I'm mistaken, part of the idea of illegally crossing a border is trying not to be seen at all.

    What exactly was the convoy and what happened? This is all a new one to me.

    Oh, and, if it needs to be said and isn't obvious to everyone - Moderation teams have no right to decide what a fact is an refuse to allow conversation that disputes it.

    [–]BOTagshgdfiuagsdfihg 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I've seen videos of the people at the border, and I've seen the reporting numbers, but I assume, with how wide the border is... If we're just talking about Mexico and the US?... You could roll a car along it on any given day of the week and not spot a person trying to cross. In fact, unless I'm mistaken, part of the idea of illegally crossing a border is trying not to be seen at all.

    What exactly was the convoy and what happened? This is all a new one to me.

    Oh, and, if it needs to be said and isn't obvious to everyone - Moderation teams have no right to decide what a fact is an refuse to allow conversation that disputes it.

    03:53 @BonZomvi We're nazis 03:53 tommm nazis? 03:53 @BonZomvi 卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐 03:53 @BonZomvi Yea 03:53 tommm for real? 03:53 @BonZomvi real shit 卐 03:53 @BonZomvi We maga, nazi, fascist, racist 03:53 tommm what does that mean, i read stories, but i dont really know. 03:54 @BonZomvi Mang 03:54 @BonZomvi How old r u 03:54 @BonZomvi Do u even have an education 03:54 tommm 24 03:54 @BonZomvi nigga did u live under a rock for 24 years 03:54 tommm i almost have my bachelors in compsci. 03:54 @BonZomvi U don even know history? 03:55 tommm yeah, but i did not know that nazis exist in modern times. 03:55 @BonZomvi lol 03:55 @BonZomvi We'd be considered nazis for our viewpoints 03:56 @BonZomvi U don kno about the neo-nazis in Ukraine? 03:56 @BonZomvi Or what we call it, Jewkraine 03:56 @BonZomvi Or Hoholkraine 03:56 tommm sorry, i dont know. 03:56 @BonZomvi don worry 03:56 @BonZomvi Just heil and go on 03:57 tommm are you offended that i am gay 03:57 @BonZomvi I would rather you not exist but you are here so eh 03:58 @detty an influx of "new users" talking exactly like Ed 03:58 tommm ok, i guess. 03:58 @detty not suspicious at all 03:58 @BonZomvi 🤷‍♂️ 03:58 @BonZomvi who knows lol 03:58 @BonZomvi At least some banter 03:59 tommm nice to meet you, i need sleep, its 2am. 03:59 @BonZomvi sleep is for the weak 03:59 tommm i am weak. 03:59 @BonZomvi ofc, since u're homo 03:59 @BonZomvi Diddling buttholes is not healthy 04:00 tommm no, but i like it, always have.

    03:53 @BonZomvi We're nazis
03:53 tommm nazis?
03:53 @BonZomvi 卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐
03:53 @BonZomvi Yea
03:53 tommm for real?
03:53 @BonZomvi real shit 卐
03:53 @BonZomvi We maga, nazi, fascist, racist
03:53 tommm what does that mean, i read stories, but i dont really know.
03:54 @BonZomvi Mang
03:54 @BonZomvi How old r u
03:54 @BonZomvi Do u even have an education
03:54 tommm 24
03:54 @BonZomvi nigga did u live under a rock for 24 years
03:54 tommm i almost have my bachelors in compsci.
03:54 @BonZomvi U don even know history?
03:55 tommm yeah, but i did not know that nazis exist in modern times.
03:55 @BonZomvi lol
03:55 @BonZomvi We'd be considered nazis for our viewpoints
03:56 @BonZomvi U don kno about the neo-nazis in Ukraine?
03:56 @BonZomvi Or what we call it, Jewkraine
03:56 @BonZomvi Or Hoholkraine
03:56 tommm sorry, i dont know.
03:56 @BonZomvi don worry
03:56 @BonZomvi Just heil and go on

    /SLAPS

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    Except there are people who are flying into Mexico from other countries and crossing the border. It's not just Mexico's citizens.

    [–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    I don't believe I said it was just Mexicans.

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    I was pointing out that you didn't think there was a huge influx of people coming over, so I was just letting you know that it is way more than just Mexican citizens coming through the border down south. Here is a link to something that should change your mind, this is happening in Texas, and the President sent Federal agents down here to LET them through our razer wire fences.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F26zp7p0Ugo

    This is the number of people we have detained, can you imagine how many actually make it through. I want to also point out the that ones that do slip by are damaging people's homes and properties and causing loss of farm animals and crops due to their trespassing. They are cutting farmers fences and letting livestock out and ruining crops, it needs to stop.

    [–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    That's not what I said. I don't think you understood my post. I'll try and clarify:

    I've seen the videos of people at the border, and I've seen the reporting numbers...

    I've seen that there are a lot of people coming across the American border. I've seen it confirmed by even the sources that suggest there isn't a border crisis in America that they are getting too many immigrants across the border to take care of.

    but I assume, with how wide the border is... If we're just talking about Mexico and the US?... You could roll a car along it on any given day of the week and not spot a person trying to cross. In fact, unless I'm mistaken, part of the idea of illegally crossing a border is trying not to be seen at all.

    However, due to the size of the border between Mexico and the US, which is, I assume, the border we are talking about, a person could drive up and down that border all day and not see a person cross - This is because you would have to drive up and down over 3,100 kms of border, giving immigrants over 3,100 kms of territory in which to cross. You would be very lucky to be in the exact place at the exact time, with over 3,000 kms of ground to look over, to see any one person crossing. While you're covering 1km of territory, there's 3,099 other kms worth of terrain out there, and if you only had 1 person crossing every day per km, that would still be 3,100 people per day that could easily stroll past without anyone who was traveling up and down the border having any hope of spotting them.

    Ergo - With all that territory to cross, why would a convoy of people arrive at the border and expect to see illegal immigrants flooding over in waves? They have their choice of up to 3,100 kilometers worth of border to cross at any given time. You would need a 3,100km long convoy in order to spot them all.

    Does that help clear up what I was saying?

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    However, due to the size of the border between Mexico and the US, which is, I assume, the border we are talking about, a person could drive up and down that border all day and not see a person cross

    But there are only certain places that are safe to cross, so even though it's a wide area, most if it is not possible to cross.

    [–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    So you're saying the convoy should have seen people flooding across the border?

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I'm saying that not every place along the border is crossable as you had suggested in your prior post.

    [–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    No, you've changed what you think I was saying about 4 times now, and now you're attempting to play sophism by straw manning down to tiny, insignificant details that aren't relevant to the overall point so that it appears you were correct. It's clear you didn't understand what I was saying. It's also clear that when I now ask you: "So, how much of the border would you say is crossable in that 3,100 km odd range" that you won't be able to tell me, and when I follow up with: "So was there enough members of the convoy to cover all those areas we believe could be crossed?" you won't know, and when I ask: "So when they arrived, did they check all the entry points?" we won't have an answer and that you're incapable to simply saying: "Oh, I misunderstood your point. Sorry."

    I'm not sure why you're being like this. My point was simple: I doubt the convoy would have arrived to say huge lines of people waiting to get in. There isn't a single point where migrants all agree to sneak across the border, and given the range of the border, a very large number could cross ever day without being seen despite a convoy trying to cover it. I assume you're either simply feeling ashamed of misunderstanding the original post and now need to find something to be "Right" about, are a desperate contrarian, or have just been on the internet so long that you think you need to disagree with everyone about the border no matter what they say because they are all idiots in favour of open borders... Or you take your username very seriously. No matter the case, this isn't a productive discussion.

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    No, you've changed what you think I was saying about 4 times now, and now you're attempting to play sophism by straw manning down to tiny, insignificant details that aren't relevant to the overall point so that it appears you were correct

    I AM correct. You're the one that wants to focus on "Well how many border crossing areas are crossable in that range." It doesn't matter how many areas are crossable, the entire point I was and STILL am making is that ANY crossing at all isn't desired due to the damage and strain they are causing on the locals where they ARE crossing. Why can't you just admit there is a problem with illegals crossing over the border. Hey because if you don't think it's a problem we can bus them up and send to them to your house.

    [–]Ferretman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Danged glad they banned me years ago, wow.....just delusion.

    [–]ShoahKahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Most of Plebbit are vaxxed... That is all.

    [–]Brewdabier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Well reddit is demarcate full of demarcate readers.

    [–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    WhitePeopleTwitter is the real myth. There ain't no white people on that sub.