Reddit thinks the border crisis is fake

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[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

There's nothing wrong with the post or the comment by the mod team. One can see the border immigration problem in a much broader, accurate context than to say that there is a (southern) border crisis. As noted in the Twitter comment - there are no massive lines of people crossing in spots that are easy to locate. Migrants are entering from all US borders, in different ways. Entry points at the southern border are numerous, stretching across several states. The GOP have been and will be lying about this constantly, trying to paint a picture of hordes of zombie-like poor people ammassed in a specific place, like locusts that will devour everything in their path. The Reddit post and comment are accurate because the GOP are spreading this disinformation about long lines at a southern border crossing with non-white, ravaging monsters swarming the area. It's racist dogwhistle campaigning of the worst kind. The Trump simping portion of the GOP could have signed the recent bipartisan bill that was for the deportation of illegal immigrants, but they did not. They're lying scum. As usual, they're creating problems for the 99%.

[–]Hematomato 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

So you share the mod team's view of the situation. That's fine. You're welcome to it.

What's wrong is that the mod team is announcing that this view will be enforced on the subreddit. They're saying: if you think there is a border crisis - whether that's because you've read a little about it, studied it in depth, or because you live nearby and have experienced things, whatever - then you're a racist, and we hate you, and you're not welcome to speak here.

I find that to be entirely despicable behavior.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

I didn't say I share the same view. I wrote that there is nothing wrong with their approaches, in the post or among the mods.

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Your post was very much about your view, which seemed to be essentially the same as theirs.

If you see nothing wrong with the approach of banning anyone who doesn't share your view, well, I guess we just don't share fundamental values at all.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Do you know if they banned someone who disagreed? I didn't know that sub existed until today. They can have their opions. Reddit lets mods voice their opinions. Larger subs should follow strict rules, but this smaller sub is unimportant.

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

When you post as a mod, using a mod account, you are communicating the official position of the subreddit. They are very clearly saying that the official position of the subreddit is that all people who think a border crisis exists are racists, and they ban racists.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You're barking up the wrong tree.

That specific sub makes fun of "white people twitter". Read the posts and comments. The mods and the community there are of the same mindset. There's also no evidence that they've banned anyone who merely disagreed. Rules are listed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter

There are PLENTY of other subs you can enjoy if you don't like the mods' and users' opinions in that specific sub. They often - APPROPRIATELY - make fun of assholes. It's part of the reason for the sub. You can say you don't agree. Try it. Twitter is run by a far right asshole. Any sub about Twitter should HONESTLY address the fascist fuckery at Twitter.

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There are PLENTY of other subs you can enjoy if you don't like the mods' and users' opinions in that specific sub

There are not. That was true eight years ago, but today, every sub enforces a specific ideology, and the site admins remove moderators who won't enforce that ideology, and ban subs that don't conform to it.

I was on Reddit long enough to see their slide from "open discourse" to "everyone needs to believe the exact same thing or you're banned."

Twitter is run by a far right asshole.

Musk is actually pretty centrist. He believes in free speech, and these days, that alone is enough to get you labeled a "far right asshole." Think about that.

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    [–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I know, and that makes me sad. You seem to really believe that social media companies should tightly control which opinions people are and aren't allowed to express.

    I suspect you're just young and you've never been on the other side of it. Democrats learned to love free expression during the Reagan and Bush years. Those who came of age during the Obama years, regrettably, learned to detest it.

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Nah Twitter is still full of overly sensitive snow flakes who don't like their opinions or views challenged and you will get suspended or banned for the dumbest shit still. Some of them come here for the hopes of being able to have an open and honest discussion about the more controversial topics without fear of being banned for not having the same opinion as the vast majority of the users. Twitter always has been and always will be a carefully cultivated mindset. I honestly don't know what's worse, Twitter or Reddit.

    [–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    We're discussing a Reddit sub that makes fun of right-wing Twitter posts. Hematomato is mad at the satire sub's mods for being partisan. But it's a partisan sub, and we've seen no evidence of them banning users who disagree in a civil manner. There are plenty of right-wing subs on Saidit that have banned users who diagreed.

    [–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Well I can tell you without a shadow of doubt that I have never been banned in a right wing sub for having a different opinion, but I have been banned more times than I can count in a left wing sub for having a different opinion. I have been called names more by the left than I ever have by the right. Which is pretty ironic if you think about it, because they left always calls the right racists and mean, when in fact I have experience way more racism by the left than I ever had by the right. They are doing exactly what they are telling everyone the right is doing, and in my experience the right isn't doing any of that.

    [–]DETTYLOVESGRAVY 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    the official position of the subreddit is that all people who think a border crisis exists are racists

    try blazing across the border into saudi and see how that works for you.

    [–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Probably not well, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.

    [–]DETTYLOVESGRAVY 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    i am the senior mod for a sub, the posts and comments are so computer generated, omg.

    i enjoy watching the shitshow, but i never engage the bots.

    [–]jokerjoker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There's nothing wrong with the post or the comment by the mod team. One can see the border immigration problem in a much broader, accurate context than to say that there is a (southern) border crisis. As noted in the Twitter comment - there are no massive lines of people crossing in spots that are easy to locate. Migrants are entering from all US borders, in different ways. Entry points at the southern border are numerous, stretching across several states. The GOP have been and will be lying about this constantly, trying to paint a picture of hordes of zombie-like poor people are ammassed in a specific place, like locusts that will devour everything in their path. The Reddit post and comment are accurate because the GOP are spreading this disinformation about long lines at a southern border crossing with non-white, ravaging monsters are swarming the area. It's racist dogwhistle campaigning of the worst kind. The Trump simping portion of the GOP could have signed the recent bipartisan bill that was for the deportation of illegal immigrants, but they did not. They're lying scum. As usual, they're creating problems for the 99%.

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