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[–]AsInBeer 38 insightful - 2 fun38 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

So I actually have sympathy for this person. Basically these are people whose brains tell them they are the gender opposite of their body. You have to admit you never "decided" to feel like the man/woman you are- the feeling was just completely there for you, fully formed . So there exist people where the two do not match- the brain and the sex.

The worst part is they're being led to believe that, by "educating' people, they can be desired. That's NEVER going to happen and leading them to believe it can through some Marxist type struggle session on the part of everyone in society is cruel in the extreme.

They can be accepted, but not desired. To be desired, they have to find somone to whom they are desirable. Most gay men don't want a female body. Neither do they want a female body which has been operated on to look like a male. They want another man and his natural body. Same goes for all directions in all forms of reversal- straight men straight women lesbian women etc.

To the person who wrote this- Look, if people are so flexible as you require them to be about what they're attracted to, why don't YOU change YOURSELF to be attracted to men as a straight woman? What? That's not your authentic self ? That's not your authentic desire? That's not who you feel youself to be? Well, welcome to the club.

I acknowledge this can be real, not something they did to themselves out of some weird desire (in most cases at least) to be different . It's easy to imagine that the brain gets printed one way for one reason or another and the body is another way. OK. I don't hate them but there's no way in HELL I'm going to date them just like there's no way in HELL I'm going to fall in love with my car's exhaust pipe. It's not the thing I am looking for and that has NOTHING to do with culture any more than your belief you're a trans was imposed on you by culture.

You can save youself a lot of heartache and not expose yourself to these situations. This is something we all learn. There are whole classes of people- taller, prettier, slimmer, smarter, the list goes on and on, whom we desire but who do not desire us and we just have to suck it up and learn to live with it. Sexual rejection is a basic experience of life EVERYONE experiences, and yes, it makes you want to cry.

All I can say is there's someone out there for everyone because just the way you were born with a mismatched brain and body so also is there someone out there who was born with unusual tastes in partners.

But aside from that, you know what? Thre's more to life than romance (not that you were looking for romance at a gay orgy...). People who die virgins live incredibly fulfilled lives and contribute to society in spectacular ways. The richness and meaning to be found in life is not about who you partner with or even if you partner at all.

Just ask Sir Isaac Newton.

[–]Questionable 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"So I actually have sympathy for this person."

I don’t. And everything you've said past that point is irrelevant.

Let me tell you what is relevant. They were attending a sex party. Don’t attend sex parties kids. The people you find in these places are not kind. These people are not your friends. Best case scenario is you get fu͖͉̖̦̼ͭ̀̑̎͛̅ͅcked like a piece of meat by someone you don’t know. Maybe you'll be offered some drugs to make the experience better for you. These people do not care about you. I think it's better off, that she ended up crying in a bathroom, and not fucked by a bunch of sociopaths she didn't know. Don’t attend sex parties kids! Especially in the age of social media where everyone around you is holding a camera!

"All I can say is there's someone out there for everyone because just the way you were born with a mismatched brain and body so also is there someone out there who was born with unusual tastes in partners.
But aside from that, you know what? Thre's more to life than romance (not that you were looking for romance at a gay orgy...). People who die virgins live incredibly fulfilled lives and contribute to society in spectacular ways. The richness and meaning to be found in life is not about who you partner with or even if you partner at all. "

Nothing you've said here is relevant to attending a gay sex party. You are more detached from reality, than the U.S economy is from the current financial markets. Stop spewing feel good nonsense. You are helping no one.

"Just ask Sir Isaac Newton."

What‽ WHAT!!‼!! Literally. Stop̦̮͎̜̘̖̦̀̓̎̈̌͆̊!

Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

[–]AsInBeer 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You made the whole point about attending a gay sex party, not me and not the author. This perosn'a point was his sexual rejection (at a gay sex party ...lol...). So we're focusing onn two different thnigs.

Gay sex parties have been with us continually since Rome, at least. It's a male-sex-drive meets male-sex-drive construct.

Believe me, if beautiful women were into sex parties (they're not for the most part), you'd have the exact same heterosexual behavior amongst young straight men.

I think you can intuit how that might be the case....

Finally, Newton famously died a virgin, so it's directly relevant.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nothing you have just said is relevant to that individuals account of events. Starting with your lack of an ability to discern my statement 'sex party' to yours "gay sex party", and culminating on your pointless knowledge of Isaac Newton's sex life.

If you wish to know more on this topic. Just ask Taylor Swift.

Ask her a̯̪̱̝̙̭̰ͬͪ̇͑̋ͪ̑bout Rome. Specifically.

[–]AsInBeer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You just hate gays it appears. So that's where we part ways.

Also, very famous fact about Newton. You just weren't previously aware of it is all.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"You just hate gays it appears."

Right. Let me clear this up for you. I broke down the events to there objective core elements, and pointed out the relevant factors. Where as you allowed yourself to become lost in the minutiae of the event, which led you to write a long string of drivel. And now you are outright slandering me, because of your prejudiced mindset, where you think or feel you can make assumptions about those who you take ill with.

"Also, very famous fact about Newton. You just weren't previously aware of it is all."

Here we have a prime example of your inability to express yourself. For some reason you think a random thought that crossed your mind was relevant, and in no way needed to be parsed or introduced into the topᴉc. And now you are patting yourself on the back for 'knowing something'. Be it something that was irrelevant, and you were incapable of interjecting into the conversation properly. But whatever. Good Job!

" So that's where we part ways ̙͙͙̈́ͨ̐"

No, I'm afraid it isn't. You're presumption that I hate gays, will forever mark you as the incompetent bigot that you are. I'll be keeping an eye out for more low level, low effort nonsense from the beer aficionado.

Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

[–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right. Let me clear this up for you. I broke down the events to there objective core elements, and pointed out the relevant factors. Where as you allowed yourself to become lost in the minutiae of the event, which led you to write a long string of drivel. And now you are outright slandering me, because of your prejudiced mindset, where you think or feel you can make assumptions about those who you take ill with.

It's enough to say I (AsInBeer) am wrong. I take correction easily. Many people disagree with your "drivel" characterization. Nothing I did was slander.

Here we have a prime example of your inability to express yourself. For some reason you think a random thought that crossed your mind was relevant, and in no way needed to be parsed or introduced into the topᴉc. And now you are patting yourself on the back for 'knowing something'. Be it something that was irrelevant, and you were incapable of interjecting into the conversation properly. But whatever. Good Job!

It wasn't random, it was a germane example of someone who lived a great life but never found sexual happiness.

..will forever mark you...

Horrors.