Another great example of how lies propagate on Reddit

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[–]King_Brutus 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

The difference with the drunk driving is that it's a clear perpetrator and victim. Rape cases where both parties are drunk get far more blurrier due to lack of evidence most of the time (in no small part due to lack of administering rape kits following allegations) and rely on testimony. This is why people are so skeptical of rape charges most of the time, nobody is actually like "yeah go rape", it's that the lines aren't as clearly defined due to facts not being as 100% concrete.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

No. The man was on top of the woman acting upon her. It's pretty clear to me mate.

This is why people are so skeptical of rape charges most of the time

It's usually men who are skeptical, not a vague "people".

[–]King_Brutus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

I'm not even specifically talking about this case, he was found guilty based on the evidence. But that doesn't make the guy you responded to incorrect. They were both drunk and people are responsible for their actions no matter if they are drunk or sober, it's not "rape apology" so take your righteous anger elsewhere.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

It very much makes him incorrect. If a man and woman are drunk, and the man is acting upon a woman who is passively lying there, the man is a rapist and is responsible for his actions. The woman is not. The vast majority of the time, this is how it actually happens. It's not the woman acting upon the man (although that can happen).

Who is angry though? Calm your penis down, Kyle. You rape apologist.

[–]King_Brutus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Who is angry though? Calm your penis down, Kyle. You rape apologist.

Go back to reddit

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Fuck Reddit with a cactus.

[–]King_Brutus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Then learn to have a discussion without insulting someone.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's not an insult, it's a conclusion I arrived to after he presented his weak case.

[–]King_Brutus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Okay. I wish you the best.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You too.

[–]bald-janitor 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Ok Newton

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Shut your bald ass up janitor, get down on your knees and clean my toilet.

[–]bald-janitor 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Learn basic economics

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, it looks like there's a large demand for you to fuck off, but the supply isn't there. How'd I do?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Think about what you are saying.

What is the alternative system? If you're drunk, anything goes? By killing a fifth of fireball, a woman basically implicitly agrees to wave all protection from sexual aggression/violence? That's insane.

[–]King_Brutus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Rape can be bad and also women/men should be responsible for their own safety when they drink. The two can exist at the same time.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lmfao. So "yes". If a woman gets hammered, she waves all legal recourse against sexual aggression/violence. You're legal mind will be very popular in the third world.

And rape IS bad. There is no "can be bad" about rape. It's a binary.

[–]just_lesbian_things 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They should. And if they commit a criminal act while wasted, like fingering an unconscious woman in a back alley, they should still be expected to take responsibility for their actions.

[–]just_lesbian_things 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The difference with the drunk driving is that it's a clear perpetrator and victim

If she was drunkenly fingering and humping his ass, I would also support her being put on the sex offender registry and getting more than 6 months in prison.