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[–]strictly 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

I agree with you. I don't really care what my sexual orientation is called, I care about what it refers to, and if the label refers to male-attracted people too then the lesbian label has failed its mission. As non-lesbians identifying as lesbians outnumber lesbians I am unsure if it’s possible for lesbians to take the label back.

Therefore I wouldn’t be against a new term for exclusively female-attracted females. I think the risk of a new term being appropriated is lower as the new term would be regarded as “transphobic” by the trans community so I suspect male-attracted people and transbians wouldn’t want to be associated with it. I think it would be easier to organize under a new term as we wouldn’t have to spend time debating who the term refers to and can focus on how homosexuality is real sexual orientation. Then if we would be able to get people to recognize there is nothing wrong with being homosexual hopefully people would recognize female homosexuality is a separate sexual orientation which deserves it’s own term separate from male-attracted people.

Regarding woman, I don't really care if people would call me a uterus-haver either, in fact I would prefer being called a uterus-haver than a woman if the person refer to males as women too, as that means they think I belong in a “gender identity category” with males who want to be women. I find being put in a false gender identity category more displeasing being referred by anatomical parts.

That said, every person should make up their own mind so I am not against lesbians who want to stick with the lesbian label etc.

[–]ColoredTwice 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

On Twitter and Reddit and maybe elsewhere - transwomen and just "queer" men are calling themselves "homosexual females" already, because "my legal documents showing 'F', so I am female".

They are taking any words we are using for ourselves. So there no way to call ourselves anymore. And if follow your logic we will be just changing word after word after word to describe ourselves, until language will run out of words. Same with our rights and spaces - they are demanding more and more every few months and some goverments are listening to them - so we will end up rightless if not stand up against. Running away and getting hits in back is not a way to protect ourselves from persistent attacker, not a way to win a fight.

[–]strictly 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

On Twitter and Reddit and maybe elsewhere - transwomen and just "queer" men are calling themselves "homosexual females" already, because "my legal documents showing 'F', so I am female".

I know, as they see it as validating. I think if a new term would be created it should be a term that trans people find invalidating or transphobic so they wouldn't want to appropriate it and instead spend their time hating it.

[–]ColoredTwice 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Transwomen-exclusionary Female-born lesbians.