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[–]Vernalmuffins 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Tbh, why should a forum always be positive? Sometimes people just need to bitch about things or people, esp the people here who might not be able to complain in person. A lesbian forum is not meant for you, it's meant for the lesbians who have to put up with the bs in those posts.

[–]Blueegg[S] 1 insightful - 12 fun1 insightful - 11 fun2 insightful - 12 fun -  (2 children)

Why are you all so focused on directing your bitterness towards straight women?? Straight men are, in general, far more homophobic and fetishistic towards lesbians yet I see no mention of them. So why the obsession with straight women? it's like incel behavior

[–]yousaythosethings 41 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 0 fun42 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

u/Blueegg, where is your empathy and sense of nuance? Why are you cherry-picking and taking things out of context?

It's hilarious that you, a heterosexual women, think you have a better sense of the homophobia and lesbophobia that we experience and see in the world than we do. Straight men and straight women both often fetishize us. In this day and age, both try to misappropriate our sexual orientation and wear it as a costume. As it turns out, there are a lot of spaces for us to share those experiences about straight men such as s/LGBDropTheT, s/GenderCritical, and fucking anywhere because it's fashionable to complain about straight men everywhere. Why haven't you noticed that? But lesbians also face a great deal of homophobia/lesbophobia from many (but not all) straight and bisexual women that appears frustratingly invisible to everyone else because they cannot understand the dynamics or effects of it. This is our place to talk about that. I am a late-bloomer lesbian who has analyzed the grooming of mostly straight and some bisexual women by other straight and bisexual women in places like r/latebloomerlesbians to believe they're lesbians who then go speak on our behalf to our detriment. Likewise, you've glossed over the context, but surely you're reading the posts where even younger women who are cognizant of their attraction to men still call themselves lesbians and consider themselves to be lesbians. This is a problem uniquely experienced by no other sexual orientation than lesbians.

If you've analyzed our posts so thoroughly, don't pretend that you haven't seen any of this. Don't pretend you don't know exactly why we're upset with a specific subcategory of straight woman. That you don't understand, are unwilling to understand, lack sympathy, and are instead hostile and reactionary is exactly why you're not welcome to post here. Especially if your entire point is that we should talk about men more here. Why the fuck do you want us to talk more about men in a lesbian forum?

Your comment calling us incels is also hilariously off-base and tone-deaf in this context because you fail to point out that the type of woman being called out is the kind of woman that fetishizes us and thinks that (1) she should be able to speak on our behalf despite evidently not being homosexual, and that (2) we should be sexually available to her to solve her issues with men and her own feelings of dissatisfaction with her life.

[–]SickOfThisShitNow 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Toxic masculinity", "incel behaviour" (despite no one that I've seen wanting straight "lesbians" to sleep with us - Every post I've seen has been saying please leave us alone.). So much of this reveals how you don't see lesbians as real women. If you actually supported lesbians you would stop saying we are like men and be concerned about the appropriation of our language and spaces - including by straight women. But I actually don't expect straight women to support us - If they would just stay out of our spaces, stop co-opting our language and stop speaking over us on lesbian issues, that would be enough and I really don't think that's too much to ask.