Tbh, one of the main things that absolutely infuriated me was the way they reframed being a lesbian as being about being woman-centred, being one of the women etc when so many of us have been excluded from female circles and isolated from other women for being lesbians and when young lesbians are being convinced that they aren't even women at all - when the exclusion of lesbians has reached the point that young lesbians are having life-changing hormones and surgeries because they are being so alienated and excluded by other women - told they aren't real women and feel they can't be accepted as one. When the response from so many women to questions about letting people with penises in women's changing rooms is "but we let lesbians in!" - making it clear that they don't see us as real women who belong in those spaces.

Then we are told by political lesbians that, because of this isolation we aren't "woman-identified" enough, so we aren't proper lesbians like the (het/bi) lesbians are. I was even told by one feminist that detrans lesbians are "traitors to their sex" and "chose to other themselves" by transitioning - with no understanding or empathy to the way the society they live in - and other girls and women - would have othered them to make them feel like they had to transition.