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[–]strictly 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My point is that either everyone is bisexual or something else is going on.

I don't understand why saying someone who repeatedly seeks out lukewarm sex with men is bisexual would implicate everyone is bisexual. Self-accepting lesbians don't seek out sex with men as we don't want it to begin it with.

I don’t think this rigidity fits in with reality. And there is a lot of science to back up this fluidity idea.

Bisexual women outnumber lesbians but that doesn't mean everyone is bisexual or fluid.

The whole point here is while a lesbian could (and often are) with men, it is a lukewarm situation.

I don't see how it could be a lukewarm situation for a lesbian instead of a repulsive one. If I only could have sex with the opposite sex for the rest of my life I would choose not have sex at all as no sex would be infinitely better than raping myself. I know lesbians who forced themselves to have sex with a man before accepting their sexual sexual orientation due to internalized homophobia. This was something they regret and did despite their repulsion, not some lukewarm thing they pursue when they have a dry spell.

Do you get the distinction I am making?

The distinction seem to be between bisexual women who are equally attracted to both sexes and bisexual women who prefer women. I consider neither of these groups lesbians.

[–]Skipdip[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You seem to be really attached to repulsion as a requirement for lesbian-ness.

Repulsion is a physiological response. I used to be repulsed by snot and poop until I had to take care of young children. I’m not repulsed by penises... I wouldn’t want to put one in my mouth. I am not excited about them. I could probably have sex with one. It would be disconnected sex, but that’s my choice. In your mind I’m not lesbian I guess 🤷‍♀️

[–]strictly 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Repulsion is a physiological response.

It's a way of saying unwanted sex is unwanted so you avoid it.

I used to be repulsed by snot and poop until I had to take care of young children.

I think your actions would probably reveal you are still repulsed (washing your hands after touching poop, wanting a hygienic partner etc, but I might be wrong).

I’m not repulsed by penises... I wouldn’t want to put one in my mouth.

Which one is it? You wouldn't mind it? (aka not repulsed) Or would it be a negative experience? (aka you are a bit repulsed).

I am not excited about them. I could probably have sex with one. It would be disconnected sex, but that’s my choice.

Why would you willingly choose to have sex you don't want? If you don't want the sex then there is no reason to have it. Anyway, you talk about women who pursue sex with men because they find sex with men lukewarm enough to be worthy of pursuing. So they enjoy sex with men, and pursue it because they enjoy it, they just enjoy sex with women more. That is being bisexual with a preference for women in my eyes.

[–]TalerTest 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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