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Political Lesbianism is not forced lesbianism/fake lesbianism.

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[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Concepts that were so important to women in the 60s are being used against women now, and more of the time it’s by innate-gender-feels people and their fellows. They are taking comphet and political lesbianism and trying to bend it all around to claim women’s spaces and lesbianism when that was literally the exact opposite of what radfem and political lesbians meant to do, and is unrecognizable. Even people who hate the idea of a woman who is not sleeping with women calling herself a “political lesbian,” they can’t deny that their movement was by and FOR women, and we all benefit, especially same sex attracted women. Can liberal feminism say the same? I think not. More attack is coming from them than anyone else, at this point, they have just stolen some radfem critique and repurposed it for men. Polilez is being used just as surely as two-spirited people and intersex people and racial minorities etc by people who want to include men in lesbianism.

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Liberal feminism has muddied the waters of womanhood so bad men can say they are a woman because they want to, and made it ok for women to eat their own, and made a lot of us afraid to stand up for each other. They won’t see it as shooting themselves in the foot, but they are with a smile on their faces because they think they are helping. If you challenge them with feelings vs facts most of the can’t handle it. The political lesbian, even if it’s only political, stood for women as a whole and took us on a much larger leap ahead in a few short years then most liberal feminists could ever hope to accomplish in a life time.

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Yeah, and the irony is that these women advocated so hard for EXACTLY what we have lost. Women only spaces. Lesbian spaces with no men. Women-only LIFE. It is NOW considered hateful to ask for what political lesbians and radfems TOOK. But sure, go off. They were hardcore but had to be and I think we can see why. It is good to remember that they really were trying to save women from male violence. I’m pretty sure it was legal to rape your wife around then.

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    [–]lairacunda 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I've never heard anyone say that political lesbians are responsible for the trans. What I have heard is that calling yourself a lesbian when you are not undermines lesbians.

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      [–]lairacunda 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Ok, now that I think about it, I can see why. They were the original purveyors of "any woman can be a lesbian". Just a hop over from anyone can be a woman. So yeah, fuck 'em.

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      And this is why I have often debated turning half my property into a lesbian only space. Turn it into a profitable blue print of what they should have been when they started and my own giant middle finger to what this whole thing has devolved into now that anyone can be whatever they want based on feeling not facts.