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[–]Jamiethiel2018 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Dan Savage can fuck off & get back in his own god damn lane. With the Advocate trotting out Lesbians to try to gaslight us into staying, surely they could've found one woman, at least, to give advice.

Baby dykes & late bloomers are already confused as hell & feeding them pomo bs doesn't help anyone but men.

Our whole system is so different. A man can't help but notice he's aroused, not to mention he's allowed to be sexual for himself. For us, the response can be subtle & for me it wasn't seeing an attractive woman that clued me in. It was only when I saw two women kissing in a sober, authentic fashion, that I felt something. There is no way for men to understand what we feel. It wasn't base, or objectifying. I didn't want them, I wanted to have that connection with a woman.

I was hoping, with the G being a target & peaking, that LGB could stay together. I'm not sure that's in our best interests.

[–]Happy_face_caller[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So true. I’m a late bloomer and after I came out I felt so free and it wasn’t but a few years before I was being told to suck ladyD**k. I was so confused and traumatized. The same people celebrating my not being with men, demonized me for not being available for tw. It was so confusing.

These rent-a-womb gay men that pretend Female biology isn’t real aren’t our allies.

They will opportunistically capitalized on our lives whenever it benefits them.

We only have each other.

[–]Jamiethiel2018 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You bring up a very good point: I cannot & will not support surrogacy even for gay men. Altruistic surrogacy I have no control over & don't get a vote if women are not being coerced.

I'm not sure how big an issue this is for the gay community. I just worry that lesbians aren't numerous enough to sustain a movement at the local level certainly, and worry about the national level. If we can connect internationally, I think we'd be strong.

[–]Happy_face_caller[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If Gay men want to have kids and rent a womb I mean I have ethical issues with it, but ultimately good for them I guess. Yet to then deny female biology is real to pander to tw I can’t get behind that hypocrisy because it’s garbage.