“We live in the richest country in the world, why is everything so shitty?” Because all that money is owned by three people dude there’s a guy running for President who’s been yelling about it for 30 years

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[–]realister 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

oh no berners are here

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Not as bad as Miga goons, but close.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

This guy Saidits.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Oh yeah, he's denouncing something truly bad.

But then again politicians do that EVERY SINGLE TIME to get elected.

Is Bernie a politician? Eh, it looks like it's ALL HE'S EVER DONE.

Of course he's going to say things that need to be said in order to appeal to a segment of the population. THAT'S HOW YOU GET VOTES.

Is he, by himself, going to steer the USA on a different trajectory than the one it's been on for the past 100 years? Are you dumb enough to believe that? From a fucking JEWISH career politician? MY GOD. WE ARE TRULY DOOMED.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Sanders has a more fervant pro-war record than Trump, and Trumps a ZioCon tool.

https://saidit.net/s/conspiracy/comments/31hg/in_response_to_progressives_who_support_bernie/

Sanders is a Labour Zionist and a bonafide Obama during his election year. All candidates must pay homage to corporations, lovbyists, Israel, and defense and weapons contractors, like Sanders did in Vermont by allowing weapons manufacturers to set up shop in hos state. Good for bussiness? Sure. Did people protert? Hell yes. Did Sanders order arrests? Yup, he did! Sanders uses his one anti-war vote on Iraq as a political spool whilst he completely ifnores his yea on all the funding for the continuation of thr Iraq and Afghestian war as well as his various pro-war stances in the 90's that parelleled the DPG neocon doctrine.

He is a JEWISH LABOUR ZIONIST. Hence, for a two state solution. He defended Israel wholst they were bombing Palestinians in Gaza in 2008 and says 4 billion dollars a day to Israel isn't a lot.

If Sanders and Obama, hypothetically speaking, were running against each other in the primaries today, Obama would look far more progressive on so many issues that Sanders wouldn't stand a chance. Why? Because Obama said all the right things, just like Sanders is doing, and when he got into office? Started various wars, killed two US citizens, bailed out wallstreet to the tune of trillions with taxpayer money. Cool!

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I can't argue any of that. He also sold out and lacked balls in 2016 when it actually counted - an unforgivable sin IMO.

Also Trump has his numerous problems, allegiances, and alliances.

Maybe Bernie will be the next Dem Judas bail-outer?

In your opinion, Jesus, who is the lesser evil, if there even is one, and can they actually affect the shadow government and their deep state and Israel?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Well the Q-tards believe Trump is getting rid of the zionist deep state, or something like that.

The way I see it, he's going to keep doing the bidding of his masters just like Obama, Bush, Clinton and so on. He's going to implement measures "for the population's safety" during "these scary viral times" that will prevent the free movement of population in the USA, allow military patrols in the streets, basically a totalitarian lockdown. BECAUSE VIRUS BAD MKAY?

And then? What do you mean, "then"? That's it. 1984 Forever.

Ron Paul, Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard might do great things, IF they weren't necessarily hampered by the same stuff that's been dictating the policies to every single President since JFK.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Brave New 1984-ever!

Ron Paul's out of it, though if you bring him in then might as well also bring in Dennis Kucinich, Jill Stein, and whoever is the Libertarian this round (just not craycray McAffee) - though most if not all of them won't touch 9/11 truth, etc.

Before JFK. It's nothing new.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well yeah he's out of it, I brought him up because he was the one who came closest to being able to do something. But he is just too old now.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Q-tards believe Trump is getting rid of the zionist deep state, or something like that.

Lol

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

And that's why they all are puppets playing into an oppressive system that our founders warned against. Trump is far worse than Sanders, no doubt, for the simple reason that all his friends were the 9/11 perpetrators, among other reasons I have laid out in prior posts.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good to know.

While Sanders is a typical 2-faced lying politician, at least he preaches about compassion etc. It's good the masses don't forget about it.

When I go on a rant about one side or the other of the paradigm I always try to punctuate it with, "also the other side is evil," to try to make dialectic buying readers realize there is no good team and I'm on neither.

[–]Tarrock 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Countries exist where people die from malaria and Ebola.

Countries exist where people get paid pennies a day.

Countries exist where you fear for your life everyday due to warlords and rebels

Countries exist where rape is a common occurrence.

But yeah, everything is so shitty here.

[–]JasonCarswell 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (16 children)

In the USA slavery is illegal - EXCEPT for the prison industrial complex - where some people get paid pennies a day.

In the USA men are raped more than women - only because of the prison industrial complex, an intentionally lawless and brutal system of torture with nothing correctional about it.

I could go on.

Outside of those prisons you is a whole nation and their colonized territories that you obviously have no idea about their shittiness because plastic Hollywood is not interested in truth propaganda.

Please stay an ignorant docile obedient consumer in fear of terrorism and a virus. /s

[–]RickC-137 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Poor Poor Poooooooor violators of the law. Do you think you are talking to people who don't hope that they get violently ass raped? You'd be sorely mistaken.

[–]JasonCarswell 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Right, because no one who ever goes to jail is innocent or targeted and you've only every stayed on the correct side of their arbitrary rigged laws always in favour of the ruling class who wrote them.

Who hopes to be violently ass raped? Who deserves it? Is that what you call "justice" or fairness?

I'm not sore, nor mistaken.

[–]Insert_bad_name_here 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So lets unpack this a rapist deserves to be raped because castration isn't legal. a murderer deserves to be raped in states where capital punishment isn't legal. you do the crime you do the time now i don't think its always fair or always just but at least we aren't the UK they lock up reporters for asking questions.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think I agree, but it's hard to say because your statement doesn't make sense and/or is severely lacking punctuation.

The UK is not the only place. There's more than enough laws like Ag-Gag preventing authentic investigation into many many many things.

[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

You are scum and your karma will have you pay.

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Our voice of reason.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

The whole "prison rape" thing is totally overblown. Few men get raped in prison. It's one of those things that people went with a long time ago and never bothered to check if it was true or not.

If you're in prison, it's only suitable that you pay your debt to society by the sweat of your brow.

You know what's a good idea? Not going to prison. Don't stab people and don't be a drug dealer. Mmmkay?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Perhaps it's overblown, but pity those few. It doesn't negate the travesty that is the "justice" system.

More people make plea deals than can actually afford to have a fair trial.

You know what's a good idea? Fair justice.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Always sympathy with the criminals, none with the victims. You need to understand the kind of people who go to prison. They aren't the innocent people you imagine them to be.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I never said anything like that.

I'm saying the sorting mechanism is broken. Firstly, many laws are unfair or just stupid. The war on drugs is a scam and excuse for excessive police. You can't honestly believe that there are more evil Americans per capita than any other nations and therefor deserve more prisons per capita?

Ultimately in this unfair system some good AND the bad are thrown in together. We'll never know because they never get a fair day in court. And the bad aren't going to be corrected in the system as it is. Further, just because a person is an animal doesn't mean they deserve to be treated like one or worse. The way we actually treat farm animals is another abominable story. And if we treat the least of us in this way, how are we to expect anything different from our "superiors" in the ruling class - or soon their corporate A.I. singularity techno-godhead when we are nothing but it's pets/animals of labour.

There is NO shortage of money in the prison industrial system to solve these issues. "They" don't want it improved and it will never be as long as there's no one making them change.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Not a word about the victims. Yup. That's about right.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

What would you like me to say about the victims? That's a whole other can of worms entirely.

Would you like me to suggest that vengeance is good? Or that unbridled punishment would make things all better? It might make the surviving victims feel better temporarily but it doesn't remove the initial actions nor does it help the rest of society. And it beats down the criminal who has serious enough problems.

Someone smashes your car and you are permanently broken. No matter what you cannot be unbroken regardless whether they did it intentionally, were drunk, or their tire blew out. If it was the former two then those criminals certainly need their seriously deviant behavior addressed and corrected if possible. Even the latter might have been responsible if driving on bald tires. But punishment is only so effective, and can only satiate those directly affected.

An eye for an eye seems fair-ish. But the first guy to lose an eye didn't ask for it. That's almost paramount to saying that you can murder your ex-girlfriend, "If I can't have her, no one can!" but only if you commit suicide or are murdered too. IMO, it's a theft that can never be paid back.

Violence is a slippery slope. Prison is a form of violence. The state has a monopoly on violence. Police get away with murder. Resist "authority" at what cost? At what point does self-defense become violence? If you get Jewish pornographers coming into your Catholic neighbourhood giving it to children, is it safe to call mobbing him out of town cultural self-defence or is that censorship of free speech?

Natural Law is simple: do not harm (or deceive) others (defense is not violence). Pacifism may be noble but is easily defeated. There is a lot of grey area confusion between minarchism and anarchism that I have trouble with.

The real solution is in the minds of those who are culturally engineered to think certain ways to accept the establishment forced upon us. This includes victimhood and what victims are entitled to.

I don't have all the answers and no one does or can.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I can't help but notice that once again, your entire post is about sympathy with evil men and not with their victims.

You know what works to reduce crime? Aging the criminals. It turns out, the overwhelming majority of crime is committed by men aged 15-35. Clap them somewhere where they can't hurt anyone but their own kind, and once they age out of that danger zone, they stop committing so many crimes.

Bet you didn't know that.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Actually I addressed it right off.

" What would you like me to say about the victims? That's a whole other can of worms entirely. "

I have profound sympathy. And that's why I try to expose the even worse systemic criminally corrupt establishment by spreading the word. But that's another story.

I did know that. I agree that aging them certainly helps - but it doesn't need to be under such terrible conditions. Also, criminals go to jail only to learn about how to be better criminals. Maybe if they had more opportunities in there and were less oppressed in the real world they might go for the alternatives to criminal life. Yes, some are gonna be bad - but I suspect many are products of their circumstances.

Why should they be able to "hurt their own kind"? Most of them are non-violent "offenders" of obtuse laws.

[–]RickC-137 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes, and he's pissed off that he's not one of them.

Such a straw-man argument. In reality the places that are the shittiest follow his ideology. They are the deadliest shittiest of shitholes.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Nonsense.

Those "shitty" places have been engineered to be so, oppressed and suppressed by the establishment shadow government and their deep state going back centuries. That includes all the "shitty" places in the richest country in the world. They need the contrasts of rich and poor/shitty for leverage and exploitation.

[–]RickC-137 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Just happens to be libs and socialists doing the "oppression" every fucking time.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I hope you're kidding.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay, you have some redeeming qualities.

[–]useless_aether 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

a toxic cis white male?! :-)

[–]RickC-137 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Old toxic cis white male with an ideology that has failed every fucking time in the history of the planet, but this genius is falling for it. At what point is it politically correct to call him a dumb fuck?

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Okay, now you just aren't even making sense, which is fair.

[–]M1lo 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You're talking to one who is arguably the most dangerous rick in the multiverse, and he doesn't respect bureaucrats.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

lol

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Bernie is Jewish, not white.

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

oops, my bad

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A cogent and conversation starting piece from /u/EndlessSunflowers! You are enuring and I appreciate it.

Out of curiosity. Who are the three people?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

enuring

Yet you've proven nothing.

[–]AbeFroman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everything is probably so shitty because he lives in California.