DiscussionQueer ideology is harming gay people

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[–]MyLongestJourney 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I have a different experience :

1.People mostly blame the LGBT "community" as a whole,they do not target gay men/people specifically.Of course,I have observed the occasional user screaching about sodomites,fire and brimstone.

2.Many people from the so called political Right,even religious ones,saying they have no problem with gay people,because they understand that trans activism represents something new and separate from the gay rights movement,which had live and let live as it's core message.

[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope that gays have done enough in the few years we had to promote acceptance. I know that I have no fear at all of being open about being married to another man. If the old school gays and lesbians continue to just act like normal people, I think most other normal people will continue to accept us.

I think most people can separate the gay people they see in everyday life from the idiots they see in on TV or online.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People mostly blame the LGBT "community" as a whole,they do not target gay men/people specifically

Depends.

Many people still use gay men and lesbians as the base they use to evaluate the other letters in the soup.

Case in point: even today many still believe that the average MtF is the equivalent of an extremely effeminate gay men, and so they extend the sympathy they have for gay men to MtFs as a whole.

Of course,I have observed the occasional user screaching about sodomites,fire and brimstone.

Most of those are going to get laughted at IRL.

Even the religious fundamentalist/homophobic politician of today knows how to adjust their language and presentation to be better palatable to the masses, not because they care about not being bigoted, but as a matter of basic pragmatism.

Anyone with even a single braincell knows that this kind of overt shit doesn't fly anymore on the mainstream.

Many people from the so called political Right,even religious ones,saying they have no problem with gay people,because they understand that trans activism represents something new and separate from the gay rights movement,which had live and let live as it's core message.

See the point above.

Even though these groups claim to have nothing against gay and lesbian people, they would not hesitate for a second to roll back many of the advances in regards to gay rights won in the last few years if they had the power and opportunity to do so.

Let's not kid ourselves here.