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[–]bucetao6969Ace spectrum | LGB should respect religion practicers 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Trans people already have their own flag, but apparently, that’s beside the point; they need to take over the gay Pride flag, and gay people have to like it.

It's crazy how gay people don't notice or take a stance against this. They just seem to be taking in. "Oh, trans people are now a third of our flag. Whatever".

It seems the whole movement is just about trans people now. Let's also stop hearing about the lesbians that have been coarced into sex by trans women and women who feel unsafe because of the actions of trans women.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi.[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's crazy how gay people don't notice or take a stance against this.

Read the history of this sub more. Or go read GC / LGB Twitter. (Or, if they weren't all deleted, you could read lots of this on Reddit, but Reddit becoming TQ+ captured is why we ended up over here instead.) We've made our positions well known for years and "gay people" isn't a monolith. But yes, it's still crazy that many LGB people have not figured out what the long con is here yet, I agree.

[–]bucetao6969Ace spectrum | LGB should respect religion practicers 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah of course I did take into consideration this sub, when I say gay people I mean the majority of them. The trans people of course are taking notice of these movements and shutting down everything they can.

I also am baffled when gay people tend to ignore trans people doing certain things because it would "hurt the LGBTQ+ cause". This includes being neutral towards the people who are trying to humanize the transgender shooter.

I can at least excuse LGBTQ+ people on places like Brazil or Japan not taking a stance on this because pulling one of those trans shenanigans (if you get my gist) is way harder with those cultures.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi.[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's a combo of gay people who don't yet realize what's going on and / or are scared to openly say anything. The number of LGB people who have taken to Twitter in the last year or so to voice our interest in divorcing TQ+ has been steadily growing, however. The Reddit version of this sub had something like 23,000 (don't quote me, I'm not going to dig up the proof just now, but it was over 20k) members when Reddit nuked it, as well. There are a lot more people who object to this than are ready to say so publicly yet. Meanwhile more and more people come onto Twitter and say "why don't LGB people do something about this," which is tiring because hey, we've been on the frontlines of this for many years. But we aren't the majority and we have to deal with homophobia, misogyny, and abuse from our own "side" if we say anything.

That's changing but ONLY because we've been pushing on this for years already. It's a marathon.

ETA: Here's an archive from the old sub just before it was banned, showing the membership figure. https://web.archive.org/web/20200703213743/https://www.reddit.com/r/LGBDropTheT/