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[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How has your life been negatively impacted by being gay? What is the great oppression you have suffered?

I'm bisexual- not gay, so none. I do try to see things through the perspective of a gay person though, based on my own interactions and what gay men and lesbians share about themselves. If you would read people's experiences in this forum and others you would see that not everything is Sunny in Philadelphia even now and the negative treatment from the past does not simply wash away from one's psyche just because circumstances may have changed.

I thought the point of this sub is that you didn't want the trans people lumped in cause they're nutty and attention whores, too many are pedos, and they generally fuck everything up for the rest of LBGay Club.

You're close. It's about having clear delineations. I don't want T lumped with the sexual orientations because it is about Gender Identity. All the other things that currently plague the T are a malus but are not necessary exclusive to them. I don't doubt there'll probably be a huge net benefit once we're separated though, because our interests(ending lgb discrimination, representation, and the normalization of same-sex and exclusive same-sex attraction) will actually be on the menu once again. Even the Trans will benefit from the separation as well, because then most of the opportunists that have infested the movement will leave for greener pastures once they can no longer get a free ride on the coattails of the gay rights movement.

There was once a time when you'd get beaten up for being gay. Possibly killed. Coming out cost people their careers. It was considered shameful. That's why LGB was needed. But those NAMBLA types have always been around too. Now they can just ride the trans train. And now there's a lot of overstepping going on. People got sick of that. Seems like a huge pushback is coming.

So you can understand how organizations like NAMBLA are counting on the common conflation between sexual orientation and paraphilias like pedophilia to slide their agenda in. Think they actually care what happens to LGB when that majority pushback comes a knockin? All they care is that they were able to gain a few degrees of social acceptance at our expense. Same goes for the rainbow folks with fetishes like BDSM, bestiality, etc. I should also include the trans-associated ones like AGP and AAP. It's not at all unusual for unscrupulous parties to exploit minorities for their own gain. We don't really have the numbers to effectively fight back against this pressure when scattered and unorganized. Hence the need to make groups for ourselves.

Anyway, I neglected to address this before:

What bias? Have you been oppressed as a gay?

See above.

I feel like we already mostly fixed that in the 90s.

Then you haven't been paying attention. It's the 'we already solved it' attitude that made people(including many LGB) complacent going into the 2010s and lead to the return of homophobia in a different form. In addition, that mainstream pushback you're referring to is coming as well. I see a fair number of religious-minded conservatives online expressing how they abhor the trans trend and eagerly lump in LGB because to them the whole thing is unnatural and Moloch-serving "degeneracy". Also, they heavily associate the legalization of Same-Sex marriage in the U.S. as some sort of Big Bang magnitude catalyzing event that began the 'slippery slope' slide into gender ideology and eventually the transing of children(even though many other countries legalized SS marriage way earlier without the same effects). Call me crazy, but I don't think the upcoming pushback is just gonna leave gay people and their rights alone..