ColonizationI'm sick of these surface level comparisons, we are not the same

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[–]julesburm1891 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How I remember this happening in America: LGB people fought tooth and nail for over sixty years to have equal legal rights and better acceptance. We got these after lots of work and by people seeing we’re just regular people. We still get to deal with homophobia regularly though.

Until roughly 2015, my experience with trans people was that they were HSTS and very few and far between. (My college campus of 6,000 had two transmen and one transwoman. All were HSTS.) Seemingly over night a bunch of straight people with clear fetishes or mental illness showed up with demands like “getting to beat the fuck out of a woman in a sport is a right,” “if you won’t fuck me you’re a bigot,” “deny reality or be publicly shamed,” “my feelings trump others’ safety.”

They can try and rewrite history all they want, but the people who lived through what actually happened aren’t just going to forget it.

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How I remember this happening in America: LGB people fought tooth and nail for over sixty years to have equal legal rights and better acceptance. We got these after lots of work and by people seeing we’re just regular people. We still get to deal with homophobia regularly though.

Exactly. Let's keep those two very different timescales in mind. That's something that this Reddit post conveniently neglected to mention.

They can try and rewrite history all they want, but the people who lived through what actually happened aren’t just going to forget it.

And worth adding:

  1. There are way more trans-identified people than there are LGB people.

  2. The vast majority of trans-identified people are young and didn't live through this, whereas LGB people-- especially L and G-- are older.

The younger crowd may very well think that the gay rights movement DID happen that quickly. I wouldn't know if I hadn't happened to take a couple of good history classes (or heard more details from people on this sub!).

I feel like a weirdo sometimes, having the perspective of being in the younger generation and seeing all these people drinking the koolaid. And yet not having lived as a young adult during a time when it was different. I truly believe the people around me do not even think about the talking points they're parroting. Or maybe they're just trying to ignore any questioning thoughts because there seems to be such a consensus on "trans rights." The right to pressure GNC kids into taking hormones and getting surgeries because the general population can't cope with their existence...