DiscussionQueer activism hasn't "normalized" homosexuality, it's only made fetishizing it more acceptable.

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[–]lunarstrain[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's the desire to be different than the norm since so many of these people are afraid of being normal.

That definitely seems to be a part of the draw for the autohomosexual but sexual fetishism is what sets them apart from the "non-binary" people of the world. You could easily claim to be demiqueerfluid and change nothing about your life while receiving attention and praise. The group I'm referring to actively pursues lesbians and gay men, because they want to make believe they're in a same sex relationship.

As older generations die off and social conservatism becomes less relevant or changes into something else the goal should be normalization so that people don't use this identity as some social statement.

Agreed. I would love for sexuality to be mundane. I put normalization in scare quotes because they're always making social media posts about normalizing random things. "Normalize men with breasts!"

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I think even then though those that pursue lesbian/gay people the prime motivator is that it suits their validation. What specifically do lesbian women/gay men have that someone straight or bi doesn't? Validation that they are found attractive by someone who is supposedly same sex. That they are in fact the identity they claim. If gay/lesbians didn't find them attractive you confront the hard reality that exists. There are fetishists who probably get off on making others uncomfortable knowing they don't pass but I think those are pretty small. Still this all comes back to wanting to cast off their original boring self as some straight dude/girl and be more exotic at the end of the day. They don't want to be normal they want to be part of a special identity.

[–]lunarstrain[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If gay/lesbians didn't find them attractive you confront the hard reality that exists.

That's the weird thing, these fetishists can be a lot more resilient than your average TQ+. Largely because it's about self perception and fantasy, that isn't to say that it isn't heightened by validation, but they can get along fine without it. It wasn't until recently that external validation was even on the table for them.

I remember online in the 2000s coming across groups of Yaoi girls who fantasized about being the insultingly stereotypical gay men from the manga they read and no homosexuals would give them the time of day. They were often publicly mocked, and yet, they continued to indulge because of the sexual motivator.

[–]Mikulbleu 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its almost as if they’re just expecting us to be a prop for them to validate their make believe sexuality. It reminds me of when a white person tries to soapbox for the black community because “muh black friend.”