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[–]GayPartisan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

One issue I see as undermining the effort to stop the replacement of homosexual with "homogender" is too much focus on the crazy assertions these trans ideologues make, and also just reacting reflexively.

I think it needs to be examined what empowered these trans ideologues such that they can repress the Lesbian and Gay communities. I think to some extent it is an assimilationist idea that being Lesbian or Gay is a private thing in a box, and we can lump trans in with other sexual minorities.

I also think there is a social worker complex of self interest. They want an expanding list of issues so they have an expanding list of social services. I call it Queer Inc. and I am just starting the idea.

I think we need to have a theoretical foundation, just rolling our eyes up at the latest excess isn't going to be enough.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think we need to have a theoretical foundation, just rolling our eyes up at the latest excess isn't going to be enough.

I'm in complete agreement; the transologists have the power, so we've gotta have the brains. Particularly because this is their weakness. The argument for transgenderism (such as it is) rests entirely on emotion: misplaced compassion, prejudice (sexism, homophobia, biphobia), narcissism, and fear. It can't withstand rationality. To take it down, our position needs to be well thought-out, lucid, and solid... in short, everything that theirs is not.

Which doesn't mean that there's no room for snarking when genderism shows its ass! We need to keep morale up, after all. Just as long as we don't lose sight of our long-term goal.

Glad to meet a fellow theoretician, Sir! Welcome to La Resistance :)

[–]GayPartisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Snarking is fine. However, for some, that is all they do as their full program. I also plan not to get pulled into sexological and gender debates in terms of the theories. The whole history is that they constantly shift and are often wholesale overthrown. What I am looking at is how are they enabled to be in power, to have power. It comes out of the modern neoliberal university and their gender studies departments. What are the reasons is it supported so widely, why are we in a position of being a fighting minority. Argue about the gender identity theories if you want, I think that is probably important. I want to understand why we are arguing at all, when Gay men make up most of the LGBTQXYZ, and are the financial basis of the Pride Parades and the custmers of the ads that fund the Alphabet Soup press.