Targeting / HarassmentHas anyone else noticed that we're compared to incels a lot?

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[–]julesburm1891 30 insightful - 4 fun30 insightful - 3 fun31 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Do they need a screen for that projection?

But, really, how? We’re the ones arguing for boundaries, honesty, and consent. TRAs are the ones arguing for boundary erosion, lying, social coercion, and sex without honest and enthusiastic consent.

[–][deleted] 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This makes a lot of sense considering that lots of transwomen were incels before they transitioned. Yet, even after they transition, they're still just like incels.

[–]julesburm1891 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s just such a weird flex. Our whole beef is “please stop harassing us for sex.” How are they trying to spin it that we’re complaining about being denied sex? The closest things I’ve seen to that are “delusional straight people are clogging up dating apps and getting in the way of people I’d actually like to see” and “it’s not fun sifting through other gay/bi people who play pretend.” And both those are lightyears away from “I’m being denied sex because women are evil.”

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 12 insightful - 12 fun12 insightful - 11 fun13 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

That screen needs to be at least IMAX size.

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is 100% projection. They are the ones getting mad at people who refuse sex.

[–]Fusrodamus 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This bears repeating: When dealing with a narcissist, a false accusation is a confession.

This doesn't mean narcissists are incapable of accusing people of things they've actually done. But when you encounter an accusation that's entirely baseless, you shouldn't waste time examining it or speculating on where it came from. That's what they want. They want you to waste your time and energy on something that distracts you from their own misdeeds.

They're incels and they know it. That's why they accuse others of being incels while never providing any examples of those people complaining about not being able to get laid.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

When dealing with a narcissist, a false accusation is a confession.

This is the most succinct way to put it. A baseless accusation from them is them telling on themselves. This also goes for people with other Cluster B personality disorders who have strong narcissistic traits.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We're the ones rejecting sex with them.

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, we've noticed. They'll say anything they can to guiltrip their way into our pants & lives at this point.

[–]CancelPowerSuper Bi Male 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To be honest? I'm not noticing anyone comparing us to incels yet.

However, something I noticed we are being compared to is homophobic conservatives. It always goes like that when you say a fact against them, "You are using the same argument the alt-right used against gays in the past", "you're repeating the past", "you are a right-wing gay" bla bla bla.

I hate it so much. I'm neither a conservative nor a liberal and me supporting LGB doesn't mean I have to submit and worship each new nonsensical gender/sexuality-related ideology just because "the conservatives suppressed us with the same kind of arguments so for some reason that makes me unable to disagree with them no matter what"

Our rights are at stake, this is not a game. If you're a threat to our movement and the acceptance around us, I don't care if you're "open-minded" and "queer" or "I'm repeating the same 80s homophobic arguments against you" I will do my best and try to drop your ass out of it.

[–]Socialjustus 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I find it amazing that a movement that calls it a hate crime if you refuse to date/ sleep with them, would ever call anyone else an incel.

They are literally the dictionary definition of incels.

[–]soundsituationI myself was once a gay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So what is their rationale? Also what is the source for this image?

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Their rationale is "GC people and LGB people who want to drop the T are a bunch of angry internet trolls who have no lives and are taking their anger out on the trans community. Just like incels." This reasoning is false -- I've met many more successful GC feminists than successful trans people. I've also heard the trans community say that detransitioners aren't real and that detransitioners are a bunch of internet LARPers who are astroturfing to strike fear in the general public about transitioning.

[–]pacsatonifil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes and it’s their strategy to get us to sleep with them or something. Hell I am fine if they think I am virgin. Just get them away from me.

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