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[–]firezemiszziles 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

here I am trying to advocate to the world that there's nothing wrong with men being feminine in presentation and appearance but yet in my own life, it's pretty rough to say the least

It will continue to be so, but...

there are days where I feel that society really is more accepting towards men who think they are women for arbitrary reasons and not towards feminine presenting men who live in reality

People like their binary boxes. We're probably hard-wired for this, as a species. Their reasons are not arbitrary. The justifications and rationalizations however, are. Their desire is an authentic one.

minority of bi men who are open to feminine men want the ones who are delusional enough to think they are actually women because they're too cowardly to confront their own internalized homophobia

They're not bisexual; they are fetishists of a particular kind. I don't mind them, so long as they are not deluded on this topic, but they often are. They've been afforded three, narrow categories, and they're picking the one that suits them. Can't blame them. Sex has been put on a pedestal as the only thing that matters--we only have sexual identities on this basis--and the consequence of this is that the actual sexual diversity that exists is trying to fit into gay, straight, and bisexual. You've seen this though. There is a sort of person with a particular attraction to you, no?

feel like a fraud sometimes and as much as I wanna continue speaking out against the ideology, I can't help but feel like maybe I'm just not right the person to due to my own problems

You are not a problem. You are the way you are. You're trying your very best to navigate a world that isn't really quite set up for you. That includes your autism. It is instead the rest of the world that has to eventually recognize that some people are just a bit different, tolerate, and accept them. How different people fashion themselves in the morning. Who they want. How their cognition works. Etc.

Try and steer clear of this gender crap for a while; it is healthy for no one, and it is exceptionally easy to obsess over. (It's rather set up that way by its proponents, after all.) The gender stuff promises some sort of halcyon future--a quick fix--but it is by conforming to a standard, fitting into that box, as opposed to being oneself.

Sometimes we take our personal issues and project them onto another topic. You, an effeminate gay man, them: autogynephiles. It seems likely you've done this. (Sarcasm: I have never done this.) Work on yourself, get a good foundation, and only then, please, rejoin the fray. You've been dealt a weird hand of cards in life, but it is this sort of thing that really builds character in a person. You can come back stronger.

You're fussing over archetypes, same as the people who frustrate you. What should a man be? What should a woman be? What is a man? woman? Transsexuals concern themselves very much with this topic. You're very invested in it, same as them. So the question is, of course, where to go in life? What about your romantic pursuits? Family? Who are you seeking validation from? No matter how advanced, how eloquent, how learned you get, not everyone will agree with you. Sometimes, those kindred spirits are really quite far between. I think it will work out for you, but you've got to solve your own issues first, before you can go solving the world's. Resolving the Grand Transsexual Problem is not going to resolve your problem.

Don't you hold opinions of people that you would never share with them? Almost in no circumstances will another person truly tell us what they think of us. And, these sorts of opinions are really quite fickle and can change in an instant. Maybe the topic is politics, or religion. Say one wrong thing and... The point is, challenge yourself. Become a better person than you were yesterday, in your own regard. Otherwise the accomplishment is fleeting and arbitrary.

That when it comes to acceptance, people in the grand scheme of things just cannot accept that there are men out there who prefer to appear feminine without having to be some fetish.

The overwhelming majority of people are completely ignorant on the topic. You're assuming far too much about their knowledge. If it ever "cuts loose," the disparity between the types of male-to-female transsexuals will be glaringly obvious, and everyone will know where you land on that one--someone who probably toyed with the idea but rejected it. It won't reflect poorly on you. It will, however, reflect very poorly on those persons who deny the reality of their situation--and in this, I think we agree.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're not bisexual; they are fetishists of a particular kind.

But that's just it, they ARE bisexual. Fetish or not, if these men are having attraction enough to have sexual intercourse with feminine men, that is a bisexual attraction, these men can be attracted to both sexes only with the same sex, they prefer them to be feminine. Believe me, I've done lots of analyzing on these kinds of men for about close to a decade now and it's the internalized homophobia that runs within these bisexual men because they can have it too.

Essentially, bisexual guys can be just as likely to fall victim into internalized homophobia because unlike us gay/homosexual men, they grew up being able to have attraction towards the opposite sex. Some of these men can even go for most of their formulative years thinking they are straight until they come across another a guy who pikes their interest and causes their bisexual awakening. But because these bi men grew up socialized into the societal heteronormativity, that means they also witnessed how societal heteronormative structure views homosexual men and depending on the environment, "others" homosexual or perceived homosexual men. We all know that effeminate boy who was bullied by other boys in school, the effeminate gay teen who got bullied for not being masculine, how the church views homosexuality (for the more religious-minded bisexual church goer who hasn't had their bi awakening), how homosexuals are viewed and treated in places like the south, etc. ALL these things bisexuals who don't know their bisexual take all this in and it's what fuels their internalized homophobia when they have their bi awakening. But when they have it, they are then in a very uncomfortable position because they fear that if they acknowledge their same sex (gay) attraction, they risk losing that societal heteronormative acceptance that they got after being able to fit into that parameter.

So what usually happens is that a lot of bisexual guys try to repress that attraction and only focus on the sex aspect. They try to view men as a sex object so they can dissuade themselves from developing feelings like you would a sex toy. But usually what happens with these men, especially the ones attracted to feminine men is that when they get older, they start to be open to dating men but usually they're the ones who try going after feminine men (including trans-identified men) who are like 20-30 years younger than them and then get surprised when they do't want them on average because of the huge age gap.

Everything else, I see where you're coming from and will take into consideration.