Gay MenQuestion - why are some straight/bi women offended by my inability to find them attractive?

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[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 14 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 6 fun -  (14 children)

My favourite is “it’s such a waste”. Go fuck yourself with a cactus ma’am.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

“it’s such a waste”

I think it continues on internally like this:

it’s such a waste you're not willing to get into the line of people I can reject, use and dispose of to boost my ego.

Because let's be honest; This is the kind of person they would be.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

That’s true. Also, it’s hard for them to manipulate gay men, because there’s no incentive for us.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

There's little incentive for straight guys either lol. The amount of sex they get from those types of women is laughable. I speak from experience as a bi male, it's not worth it. Most of the time the sex is terrible too. They are just as selfish about sex as they are everything else. The fact that they are letting a man penitrate them is enough in their book. It's one of the reasons that MGTOW is growing at a pretty fast rate.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

In effect a lot of women are narcissistics, and dating apps are to blame. When you're an hetero womsn with thousands of likes, it is kinda hard not to be ultra-selective and thinking yourself as some superior diva. Men being desperate from pussy and putting women on a pedestal does contribute to that kinda of women behaviour. MGTOW looks like a group of misogynistics who had zero luck dating though.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's definitely not a one way street for sure. Males objectification of sexual partners isnt healthy. Im not a fan of MGTOW as a movement because it does attract a lot of incels and woman haters but the original idea of NOT basing your identity on your sex appeal to women is sound.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I agree, that's just about men. Also het women base their worth on men approval. And so do gay men about other men into men, and gay women on other women into women. We're programmed for social approval, especially approval of someone we're attracted to, and wanting sex and affection. But is crucial to learn to love yourself and not let people opinion dictate the opinion on yourself, also accepting staying alone. Otherwise any inevitable rejection, or someone leaving you or just not finding mutual interest and compatibility is going to hurt like hell. It's easier said than done though, as biologically we just meant to think a certain way

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Agreed but I would say that rather than being biologically meant to think a certain way I would say that it's an easy way of thinking. Biologically we are in flight/flight mode. It's not impossible to overcome but most people find it easier to go with "the norm" even if that makes them unhappy because it avoids having to engage in flight/fight. Avoiding that is a key driver for people.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well, it's biological because we got this desire to have sex, to cuddle, to have emotional connection, that's all biological. Lik we also evolutionary programmed for approval, and loliness and pain for rejection is kinda our mechanism to search it, as it was necessary for survival. But we are rational enough to overcome it, it is just not easy. I think for men is even worst because their libido is just higher.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it was pretty bad in my teens and 20's. I actually looked into medication to lower it but its super risky to do and im not even sure there is medication for it. My libido dropped in my mid 30s to a tolerable level.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I just wanted to add that I probably framed my position wrong. I agree we have biological needs etc but we also have the ability to overcome it and thats biology as well. So what I was trying to say is that we are not bound to those behaviors even if they do provide nutrients for our soul if in good company.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That’s a good point. In fact, a lot of straight and bisexual men, in fact the vast majority of them, are immune to these types of women. When looking for wives, straight and bi men want peace. When looking for hookups, straight and bi men want to be done with it. Most if these men cannot be manipulated with sex. My friend who’s a straight male can tell if a woman is trying to manipulate him and he doesn’t fall for it.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's truth people wanting serious long lasting relationships care less about look and more about tranquility. I think lots of men would be turned off by a demanding narcissistic super beautiful woman, and prefer someone more normal looking with intelligence, kindness and good character compatible with theirs to build something real. For a serious relationship character is way more crucial, while for hooking up it doesn't matter at all.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe over there. Here in the states the vast majority are all about it....