BisexualFeeling Isolated As A GC Bisexual.

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    [–]venusflytrap 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    This is absolutely untrue. Bisexuals are seen as the dumping ground for transgender people. "Leave homosexuals alone, just date bisexuals. They like both sexes," like we have no standards and will have sex with and date anyone. On top of that, our community has been overrun by transgender and "queer" people, who have changed the definition of bisexuality itself. You can see it for yourself.

    Trans people are a threat to everyone, not just gay men and lesbians.

    [–]throwaway999 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    Trans people are a threat to everyone, not just gay men and lesbians.

    Can you at least see that they're more of a threat to monosexuals, especially homosexuals because of their disadvantaged position in society? Because like Daddiescummies (lmfao) said, they really want to have sex with a real gay for the ultimate validation high.

    And to me, this:

    "Leave homosexuals alone, just date bisexuals. They like both sexes,"

    seems like just a simple statement of fact. That's really the only option other than fetishists, because monosexuals will be especially repulsed by seeing sex-characteristics of the sex they aren't into, even if that person is of the sex they're interested in.

    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Can you at least see that they're more of a threat to monosexuals

    Of course we can, we're here supporting you too! It's not a competition or about who is being threatened MORE.

    Bisexuals are stating that we're being attacked as well, and also being completely isolated from our community. Lets not forget that bisexual is no longer recognized as "attraction to both/2 sexes" and is now alleged to mean "attraction to 2-or-more genders" ... and how even that newspeak definition is being called bigoted, in favor of "pansexual".

    "Leave homosexuals alone, just date bisexuals. They like both sexes"
    seems like just a simple statement of fact

    Just because bisexuals are attracted to both sexes doesn't mean we want a person who has surgically-modified themselves to be a conglomeration of both.

    That's really the only option other than fetishists

    Don't really care if an amalgam human experiment only has fetishists left. That's their problem, not bisexuals. Just like it's not your problem that they primarily focus on monosexuals.

    [–]throwaway999 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Just because bisexuals are attracted to both sexes doesn't mean we want a person who has surgically-modified themselves to be a conglomeration of both.

    I never said that. All I said was that the only people who could possibly be interested in trans-id people are bisexuals or fetishists.

    Don't really care if an amalgam human experiment only has fetishists left.

    Nor do I, but the fact remains, some bisexuals and fetishists are attracted to them. Some bisexuals are included. I never said "bisexuals have to fuck trans people", I literally just said the only people who could are bis and fetishists.

    Just like it's not your problem that they primarily focus on monosexuals.

    It is my problem because I'm an LG ally.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    the only people who could possibly be interested in trans-id people are bisexuals or fetishists.

    That's absolutely not true.

    1) fetish is not a sexuality, it's a paraphilia and can affect anyone
    2) there are homosexual transsexuals
    3) a man attracted to a trans woman is homosexual or bisexual because both are male. A woman attracted to a trans man is homosexual or bisexual because both are female. Feelings about gender presentation doesn't change sexual orientation

    It is my problem because I'm an LG ally.

    Not good enough, as our LG brothers and sisters have been expressing. Tidy your own house.

    [–]throwaway999 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    1) I never said otherwise, so I don't know why you would say this. Almost as if you're trying to paint me in a bad light.

    2) Yes, I know.

    3) That's all very obvious.

    Not good enough, as our LG brothers and sisters have been expressing. Tidy your own house.

    That's why I'm here explaining this lol

    [–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    "Leave homosexuals alone, just date bisexuals. They like both sexes,"

    But trans people AREN'T "both sexes"; they're not hermaphrodites. They're either men or women. And we aren't attracted to every man or every woman, so why would it be any different with them?

    Furthermore, even if they WERE hermaphrodites? It doesn't follow that bisexuals would be attracted to them THEN, either. Just because we like both men and women doesn't mean that we want 'em BLENDED. I mean, I really like both tuna salad sandwiches and hot fudge sundaes, but I damn sure ain't interested in MIXING 'EM TOGETHER. Separately, they're great; but as one combo dish? NO FUCKING THANKS.

    [–]throwaway999 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    But trans people AREN'T "both sexes"; they're not hermaphrodites. They're either men or women. And we aren't attracted to every man or every woman, so why would it be any different with them?

    I never said they were both sexes or that bisexuals are attracted to every man and woman. All I said is that only a bisexual (or fetishist) is capable of not being repulsed by a trans person's mixed sex characteristics. Obviously, some, maybe even most, bisexuals are repulsed anyway, but it's not because they are repulsed by either maleness or femaleness the way a monosexual would be--the vast majority of monosexuals could not date any trans person because their orientation prevents it.

    I really like both tuna salad sandwiches and hot fudge sundaes, but I damn sure ain't interested in MIXING 'EM TOGETHER. Separately, they're great; but as one combo dish? NO FUCKING THANKS.

    Lol.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Who cares if bisexuals could technically possibly not be repulsed by trans people? What is your point, why are you even bringing that up in a support thread for bisexuals?

    [–]throwaway999 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Who cares if bisexuals could technically possibly not be repulsed by trans people?

    Because it's important to recognize the way in which bisexuality and monosexuality (though specifically homosexuality) differ when it comes to trans attraction. The average gay male is not gonna like a man with titties, because titties remind him of women, which he finds repulsive. Now, a bisexual may find a man with titties repulsive, but only because it's weird and unnatural, not because they are repulsed by the (seemingly) femaleness of the titties, or the maleness of the man. In the homosexual's case (which applies, though slightly differently obviously, to all monosexuals), the repulsion is based on his orientation. In the bisexual's case, the repulsion is based on a preference, which is a completely normal, natural, and understandable preference to have, but this understanding sheds light on the reason why the proportion of bisexuals in the TRA movement is much higher. A bisexual is likely to be repulsed by a transsexual, but a monosexual will be repulsed by a transsexual 99.9% of the time.

    why are you even bringing that up in a support thread for bisexuals?

    Because I was explaining to the person I originally quoted what the reasoning was behind that statement.