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[–]our_team_is_winning 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I agree there's limited organizing because face it, it takes MONEY. Corporations are funding the Trans Craze. We could (and should) use exclusively LGB when referring to "community" (like we're all one big happy family -- hardly!) and call our representatives to voice our concerns over Trans Insanity, but we're not Kelloggs or Nabisco or any other global brand name. We're not Big Pharma. Anything we do is going to be grassroots simply due to lack of funding.

I don't see Conservatives taking over anything any time soon. The media likes to scare people with that, but facts on the ground are different. Speaking for USA here, the Far Left owns 95% of media, pretty much every university, and currently all three houses in govt. Also, we have mass immigration, and unless they're fleeing communism, the immigrant population veers Left. Plus we have this Universal Basic Income plan floating around, and we've already seen the "stimulus" and other govt payments expand. Once you get a large % dependent on govt aid, they're never going to vote Republican. And the Republicans seem like they might be stupid enough to permanently sabotage themselves by pushing through extreme abortion restrictions. So I don't see (America's anyway) Conservatives gaining ground. They WILL get a few bills though against transing children (and Chase Strangio is already on it!) They're never going to defend women's bathrooms, rape shelters, prisons -- maybe sports, but in limited places.

Definitely any backlash against the T is going to hurt LGB because the lying Wokesters won't stop saying "LGBTQ+ community" as though that's a real thing. I try to wake up everyone I know to the threat of autogynephiles, and every one of them responds by implying they're gay. I fear that's what the mainstream believe -- TWAG: Trans"women" are gay -- but they're not! (Oh yes they are, they're lesbians /s.)

Hate to say it, but more gay men need to speak out against the T insanity. Women aren't listened to. An ugly truth but a truth nonetheless. You men need to speak out. When we women do it, we're threatened with rape and told we're going to be punched, etc. They don't even have a slur like "terf" to use against gay men who speak up, do they? Just "cis" -- I don't like appealing to men for help, but the GB part of LGB need to be more vocal on the T issue.

Where's that Supergay movement now?

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well someone did coin the term "TEHM" (Trans Exclusionary Homosexual Male) but I rarely ever see it being used, so I'd say your point still stands.

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably because wokies have decided "homosexual" is offensive.

edit: Also you're right about men getting more leeway to not believe in gender ideology.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Plus we have this Universal Basic Income plan floating around, and we've already seen the "stimulus" and other govt payments expand.

These are going down the shitter once the labor shortage, which is already a thing, starts getting worse, so no problem here.

They WILL get a few bills though against transing children (and Chase Strangio is already on it!) They're never going to defend women's bathrooms, rape shelters, prisons -- maybe sports, but in limited places.

Yep.

Definitely any backlash against the T is going to hurt LGB because the lying Wokesters won't stop saying "LGBTQ+ community" as though that's a real thing. I try to wake up everyone I know to the threat of autogynephiles, and every one of them responds by implying they're gay.

This pisses me off so much.

The general population still has the same understanding of transgederism held in the 80s, even though alot has changed since then.

Hate to say it, but more gay men need to speak out against the T insanity.

Well some already do.

The problem is that, like the general population, most gay men still think transgender = HSTS, which is not the case anymore.

In this context, speaking agains TRAs means speaking against themselves, which they aren't going to do.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The media likes to scare people with that, but facts on the ground are different. Speaking for USA here, the Far Left owns 95% of media, pretty much every university, and currently all three houses in govt.

This! This is so true and this is where the power of online communities comes in.

You can replace the media with an online community, we already do this fairly frequently posting news items from all over the world. The media's greatest weapon in controlling narratives and public opinion is silence. They routinely bury stories and deny coverage of events that don't fit the story of the world that they're pushing.

We keep each other abreast of bad behavior by trans activists, power plays and legal shenanigans they're engaging in, who's with us and who isn't. We cover stories the media chooses not to.

Our greatest power can come when journalists start reading what we post to keep up with gender news. We will start writing the news for them, quite literally. Journalists are appallingly lazy. 4Chan discovered this power several years ago and ran with it.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree there's limited organizing because face it, it takes MONEY. Corporations are funding the Trans Craze. We could (and should) use exclusively LGB when referring to "community" (like we're all one big happy family -- hardly!) and call our representatives to voice our concerns over Trans Insanity, but we're not Kelloggs or Nabisco or any other global brand name. We're not Big Pharma. Anything we do is going to be grassroots simply due to lack of funding.

You summed up so many of our problems here. We're fighting the combined institutional powers of Big Business, academia, and the government.

I don't know about y'all, but I don't have much spending power. I also don't have tons of time or mobility.

There are ways to optimize online communities as a way to lobby for your cause with the general public and especially to influence media narratives. It can't replace traditional political activism but it is something that regular people can do that is genuinely effective.

If you conceptualize our current massive social conflicts as a war (which many do) online communities are a facet of 4th generation warfare and are being used very effectively by conservatives in the culture war

Online communities are suited to asymmetric power imbalances in particular- when one group maintains a massive political advantage over another.