LesbianWhat would LGB people do without the wisdom of the Zoomers?

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[–]insta 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yup, these people are dumb & go unchallenged because everyone knows if you poke these people they will directly target your life and try to fuck with you.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I challenge them sometimes but it's a huge time-waster. Luckily I know all the talking points.

[–]insta 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've found their arguments mostly circular and therefore unfalsifiable.

Them: "X is bad because of Y."

Me: "Well, X is actually bad because of Z"

Them: "Z is bad because of Y. Therefore I'm right"

Happens over & over again.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah that's the time-wasting part. I try to stick to verifiable facts like the dangers of puberty blockers, but I do get sucked into the circular arguments a lot.

[–]insta 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I try to stick to verifiable facts like the dangers of puberty blockers

Next to nobody cares. I've seen time after time people just presuppose the whole argument that puberty blockers are completely harmless. People just base their entire argument off that and it's ludicrous. Then whenever they get called out on it they have like two bullshit studies from some garbage source that says "nope, it's chill my dude". I've listened to people legit argue for chemicals to be put into children (to varying doses of course) the chemicals we used to castrate sexual deviants with. They will look you straight in the face and see no problem with that and think it's totally reversible.

"Injecting some 16 year old with body stunting chemicals is totally reversible and will be fine" is their legit standpoint and it's mind boggling. They're just liars.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I normally just dump this:

Loss of sexual function: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26119518/ , https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10221860/

Loss of bone density: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27845262/ , https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/results/NCT00660010?term=leuprolide+and+central+precocious+puberty&view=results#evnt

Lower IQ: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5694455/

From the puberty blockers consent forms at the Children's Hospital Los Angeles: “If your child starts puberty blockers in the earliest stages of puberty, and then goes on to gender-affirming hormones, they will not develop sperm or eggs. This means that they will not have biological children.” https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q-zJCivH-QW7hL25idXT_jITfJZUUm1w/view

Various health problems: https://www.statnews.com/2017/02/02/lupron-puberty-children-health-problems/

NICE admits low evidence for puberty blockers: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56601386