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[–]usehername 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Please clarify non-pornographic erotica. Like an erotic novel? To my knowledge, there hasn't been a study that showed that erotic novels have negative effects on people's brains/attitudes, so I don't know if it's bad but I don't consume them either way. However, porn videos, pornographic still images, and softcore still images of women like in Playboy magazines and the like (even when they aren't naked) are shown to have negative effects on cognitive function and attitudes towards women. There has not been a lot of research into gay porn/images of men, but I'd imagine there's a similar effect.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes. Erotic novels, audio recordings (things like moans only for example), certain kinds of art, etc, I consider to be non pornographic erotica.

I agree with your other points. And I'm pretty sure preachy does too (hence the distinction drawn between porn and other erotica initially). I was just confused as to why you kept saying 'porn is bad' essentially when, from where I was looking, you and preachy both agreed on that.

Preachy says porn is bad but that doesn't mean other forms of erotica are bad. You then say porn is bad. Preachy says that doesn't contradict what was said initially (the distinction between porn and other forms of sexual stimuli). You say porn is bad again. This continues with you repeating that porn is bad (which you both agree on). Reading through all of that left me thinking 'maybe she has some info on all sexual stimuli being bad, porn or otherwise.' So I asked out of confusion.

[–]usehername 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He says:

porn obsession is a symptom of unhealthy, untrue attitudes toward sexuality, not the cause.

It is a symptom, but is also a cause, especially for younger people. I think me and him weren't on the same page for that argument, but that was my point.