Gay Men"Do I sound gay?" documentary

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[–]grammaroo 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

there's clearly something biological going on. A lot of men with effeminate voices would take out a mortgage if they could get rid of it. They cant hide it. If they try to sound masculine, theyre not sounding masculine, they end up sounding like an effeminate person making fun of how a masculine person sounds (a caricature). But if it's biological, then why isnt there a "lesbian voice". I've never heard of such a thing. Although AGP straight men pretend to be feminine and they come off as monsters when they do since it's a masculine man "imitating femininity", these people are clearly feminine and it seems to be in their core since they were 3 and it's obvious. As a gay guy, i just dont know what this means. Some gay men "camp it up for fun" and it can be annoying, but underneath it theyre still like this and so am i. If you take away their diva attitudes, their "campy-ness, their "sass", underneath the aesthetic they still have that voice but all those layers of aesthetic is their attempt to try and "own it". I think gay people are always vulnerable to this whole trans thing because we dont have our own proper culture to channel our "femininity" in our own ways and it ends up perverting itself by being "inspired" by women's femininity...which is different. I try to hide my "femininity" but it slips out once in a while. It's not the superficial kind of femininity and i think this is controversial to say but i think "femininity" <-- this is so not the right word but i have no other word for it-- is when gay guys are being human. When im happy, excited or expressing compassion and my humanity, it just doesnt seem very "manly". i dont do it in a girly way but everytime my humanity is involved in something, my "true self" slips out and i accidently forget all my "conditioning". Im not repressing some 14 year old diva inside of me but i never see straight or bi men have this side of them when they act happy or compassionate (i've also never seen them be genuinely happy unless theyre laughing at someone's pain or humiliation lol).

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But they don't sound feminine at all. Listen to how real women speak then listen to the "gay man" voice. There is a world of difference, in fact, it's one of the reasons "trans women" do not pass for female in their voices. Because they put on the "gay voice" instead of actually successfully emulating female speech. Ironically even though society thinks the "gay voice" is unmanly or feminine, I think it's actually a very clear indicator of maleness.

I believe it's an "accent" picked up by communities. My evidence for this? I do not have a "gay voice." I am an intersex guy with an actually ambigious voice, I sound more like I have a low female voice than a male one. But that's because of my literal physical body and my failure to go through a normal male puberty. My voice never deepened like it does in normal males. But I do not have the "gay accent", because I have never known another gay male in real life, I have never participated in gay communities, thus there is no way I could consciously or unconsciously pick up the accent. I don't hear it.