Gay MenDo you, a gay man, want to date this deluded and obnoxious woman?

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[–]Virginia_Plain 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No. On some level, I think Prinx is aware of how bothersome this behavior is to a lot of people, but, as per the author who had the police called on him, I also recognize that there are people goading an unstable person to do things that aren't in her interest. The infuriating thing is the smug sanctimony of the "allies." Both gay men and women with some very serious issues to work through are being used as chess pieces in some self-righteous wokester head game.

I'm reminded of a friend with very serious alcoholism. We lived in a touristy town with lots of bars and breweries, so socialization almost always had some element of drinking involved. I came up to meet him with some friends, and he was passed out, urinating on himself. The response of everyone I met there was basically "Har har, that's [name], always partying hard." They were too obsessed with this image of themselves as open-minded people who don't dig rules to recognize a man poisoning himself to the point of unconsciousness and loss of control of his bodily functions.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That’s disturbing. But the problem is, it’s easier to be open-minded than to be confrontational.

[–]Virginia_Plain 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think people are able to regulate tolerance of others' difference with their own personal boundaries (or the idea that someone else might have boundaries that don't include you). So much "allyship" is weirdly co-dependent, and involves people barking at others at others on what to say, how to say it, and how to feel about it; any questions, attempts at compromise, etc. are a showing of one's dreaded privilege.

You seem to be from Ireland, so maybe it works differently there? I'm going off what I see in the States.

If my experience with gay "allies" is anything to go on, I have always noticed some people's almost slavish desire to please me, to walk around me as if I were an easily startled animal once they figured out I was gay. I didn't like it, as it felt rooted in fear. It must get tiresome after a while. I honestly have more respect for the people who make it clear they don't get it, but are content to let me get on with my life and them theirs.

Maybe that's what's causing the backlash against "cis gays" in some lefty circles. People didn't want to admit it, but they were tired to death of constantly feeling that they had to walk on eggshells around gay people. Now there is something new that they can ally with, and they can finally express any misgivings they had about the gay men and the lesbians, under the guise of progressivism. Even so many of the gay transmen/lesbian transwomen have this sort of vengeful "I'll show you" attitude toward them.

I guess I can take comfort in knowing that if the pattern is similar, soon people will move on to some other idol, with which they can beat gay AND trans people over the head. Hooray.

The saddest part is that there never was any true "understanding" toward the people they claimed to ally with; just a primal fear of being left out of a social trend.

[–]QueenBread 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There's a very clear political message being sent, when a man is elected woman of the year, and a woman is considered the best man for gay men.

It's a message of mysoginy and homophobia. That is now socially accepted AND encouraged because, just like religious fundamentalism, it's coated with a fake coat of "justice".

[–]Beryl 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Lol not a single commenter is having it.

[–]Rage-Xion 9 insightful - 9 fun9 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 9 fun -  (5 children)

Now ask lesbians if they would date Riley J Dennis

[–]reluctant_commenter 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Ugh, god. I actually felt a little physically sick when I read that, lol.

[–]AugustiJade 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Nope. I would not want his Adams apple to poke my eye out, let alone the other issues.

[–]UselessThought 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That guy is a homophobic cunt

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely not.

[–]Rage-Xion 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No.

[–]pacsatonifil 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I love seeing all the no single word responses