DiscussionIf women ran the world...

submitted by [deleted] from self.LGBDropTheT

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]exponent2 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (12 children)

Reply 1 . It would be worse. Lesbians seem really clueless because theyre engulfed with and squandered all their time investing in "womanhood", not understanding how reality and politics work since theyre so obnoxiously insular. And they genuinely have no sense of culture or worldly perspective to see how an actual patriarchy works. Theyre too self centered. They seriously think gay males, you know "traitors" to the patriarchy for being homosexuals, somehow benefit from it. In all countries with true, authentic patriarchies, gay men are executed for being abominations and lesbians are just left alone as mere curiosities or theories. Lesbians put all their energy into thinking liberating themselves from heterosexual men would mean they would be free...and assumed heterosexual women wouldnt oppress them? They just keep forgetting theyre homosexuals and for 2000 years, heterosexuals have been trying to commit genocide against all homosexuals.

I already posted this before and i dont want to type it all out again but it's a back and forth i had with a lesbian on here so it's not fully within context of the question but here it is and it reveals how naive lesbians are with what a matriarchy would look like.

my not so very nice comment and back and forth with a lesbian on here:

"One thing lesbians wont tell you is how they basically destroyed the gay community with their narcssism. They always chose "womanhood" over their homosexuality and always tried to leave gay men behind...and when that didnt work, they "lost their place" and squandered all their efforts and never really took part in building up the gay community. So they project this on to gay men...but gay men couldnt build a "manly man paradise" with the straight men since they were the ones murdering us.

So the lesbians came crawling back to their "homosexual identity" begrudgingly since the straight and bisexual women wouldnt stop laughing at them behind their backs and betraying them for "men" and ruining their perfect little lesbian utopia.

Stonewall UK and multiple gay lobby groups were exclusively run by gay men. The lesbians werent kept out..they honestly just werent successful enough to run them. It took lots of money, networking and power and the gay lobby just represented homosexual interests. The lesbians came in (by doing exactly what transbians did) and used intersectional feminism to call everyone a racist, invaded the Stonewall UK gay group and formed coalitions with a bunch of people to betray gay people.THIS is the origin story of the transexual disaster. Now that these idiots invaded stonewall, guess what happened? The black lesbians betrayed the white lesbians and kicked them out...then their intersecitonal "whoever is the biggest victim gets all the money and attention" went to the black lesbians (you know, because black gay men arent the biggest victims of homophobia)...and then our community was no longer about gay and lesbian success, prosperity and power. It was about whomever whines the most gets the most attention. And guess what? The biggest winner in that case is the biggest liar so our emperor of the gays and lesbians was a black, transexual, 2 legged, wheel chair bound straight man who "identifies" as a lesbian lol. THIS is the origin story of how these people hijacked our movement.

So dont listen to these "radical feminist" types. Again, theyre mostly a useless joke.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Who here has ever said that gay males benefit from the patriarchy? Perhaps in some senses, but in many others, such as the pressure to have a nuclear family with a woman, the pressure to be masculine (but somehow gay men are considered unmasculine which makes no sense), and to go to war (which can be difficult for gay men if the people they're stuck with know and despise the fact that they're gay).

At no point have I ever seen lesbians say that gay men benefit from the patriarchy, just radfems, which don't always equate to being lesbians. Most radfems are straight, not to mention political lesbians who are also straight but often drop the political from their title and speak for us. I'm not saying no lesbians say this or believe this, but gay men usually aren't at the top of our priorities when we've got straight men and transbians (straight men again) to deal with.

[–]exponent2 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

here's what your fellow psychotic lesbian typed. She's not a "rad fem"..just a regular lesbian. Im sure she wasnt masturbating while typing this shit: I personally haven't experienced that much homophobia from non-homosexual women. Occasionally, I will run into a myopic bisexual who insists that everyone in the world is secretly bi. But even the religious heterosexual women I encounter in my everyday life have not been homophobic towards me, though they have every reason to be. Then again, I live in the US.

I think if women ruled the world, there would probably be less homophobia towards lesbians because we have superior skills giving women orgasms, and they wouldn't see us as "violating the natural order" by refusing to spread our legs for men. Women also do not view sex as a form of "conquest" and therefore, do not have that nasty tendency to look down on everyone they "conquer." Lesbian could also serve as additional help in the task of childrearing, as we don't generally get pregnant by accident and can be trusted around children. Lesbians also have a tendency to be very handy, self-sufficient, which would be necessary in a woman-centered society."

Just go ahead and interact with this lunatic. Go ahead, lets see how you two talk back and forth. She's in the comment section here. Again, learn to grow up and stop being such a gigantic burden on the homosexual community.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You sure that's not a man LARPing as a lesbian though? There's nothing stopping anyone from joining, right?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I love how we are suddenly going to pretend that lesbian mothers didnt have their children taken away from them in the west for being homosexuals not too long ago. Was it masses of straight women protesting outside of the courts on the behalf of lesbian mums in the 50's?

I wonder how they feel about lesbian mums that use ivf and do not adopt; but Im too tired for that discussion.

[–]exponent2 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

look, i'm not saying this to flatter you but you seem like you have a much higher intelligence than most. Not because i find you agreeing with me, but because you parse through information and sources through paragraphs from people who havent let go of their frustration and anger and you look passed the immature emotions to see the points others have made when they could have clearly done a better job. If you're having trouble seeing if the lesbians you're with are on the right or wrong path, just try imagining a gay guy saying what that older lesbian said and if it sounds utterly insane to you, then stay away from them, ignore them or try to convert them. Like, what that imbecile said to you was insane so imagine if I said it: "the patriarchy is good. Gay guys give THE BEST blowjobs and THE BEST orgasms. We make the best uncles and if we lick the feet of straight men, they will help us. Did you know the patriarchy is amazing? It organize society into castes and straight men are amazing "warriors", theyre so strong and they show mercy to those who live under their feet"....i mean, do you see how seriously irredeemable some of these women are? NOW you understand whats wrong with them. Theyre broken, creepy perverts and you dont have to worry. These are old lesbians you're talking to. She might as well have been masturbating as she was talking to you. Im glad you had this experience. Because now you understand the disgust, anger and inability for gay people to forgive these creepy older lesbians for the kind of creepy things they do or say. Gay guys can be sexual but my god...the older lesbians you're talking to are too busy furiously masturbating to care about the younger generation. They hide behind the thin veneer of "we're women so we must not be as insane as the men" but i think you're experiencing it here. And i hate how the younger lesbians get so confused, defeated and broken because theyre taught to go to the heterosexual and bisexual women who end up "teaching them their place"...and the creepy older lesbians are masturbating to some fantasy they want to feed young innocent lesbian kids. Jesus. See why gays are disgusted by them? While we were busy getting stabbed in the streets fighting for homosexual rights...these people were masturbating to fantasies of "serving straight women". Can you IMAGINE if gay people were doing shit like that?

You're a good person, and very intelligent. Dont get demoralized because it's not just you. Some other lesbians (the young ones...the older ones are hopeless) are starting to REALLY understand theyre homosexuals first. And you think too highly of Trans rights activists. Theyre incapable of doing anything. No one knows theyre our enemies because heterosexuals are clueless. They Trans rights people were only able to invade because the older lesbians were too busy sabotaging gay rights lobbies and charities to invade them after gay men did all the work...and the second they successfully sabotaged all these organizations by calling them racist and sexist (they werent), then the transexuals immediately elbowed their way into them because gay men left in droves, took their billions and called it quits. So the problem isnt transexual power (they have none), it's gay and lesbian disunity.