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[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Lesbians seem really clueless because theyre engulfed with and squandered all their time investing in "womanhood", not understanding how reality and politics work since theyre so obnoxiously insular.

Dude. These are ridiculous and broad generalizations. Not all of us are like that. I don't give a fuck about my "womanhood".

And they genuinely have no sense of culture or worldly perspective to see how an actual patriarchy works. Theyre too self centered.

Are you talking about specifically lesbians from the US...? If so, then yes maybe some of them act like that, but there are lesbians who live in countries where there are, in fact, patriarchies.

It sounds more like you are talking about radical feminism as opposed to just female homosexuality. But a bunch of the radical feminists who say they are lesbian think that female homosexuality is "an open-minded choice" which is total bullshit. They tried to speak for us the same way that trans rights activists are trying to speak for us now.

So dont listen to these "radical feminist" types. Again, theyre mostly a useless joke.

The original question said nothing about radical feminists, it was about lesbians. It's not fair to say "female homosexuality = radfems." What if I told you, "All gay men are just men's rights activists who hate lesbians?" That would be equally dumb.

[–]exponent2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Listen. This conversation WILL be had. No one is going to run from this. And i told you i merely just took 2 very long comments i had as an argument with a lesbian on here and pasted them on here. So dont be dishonest in your critique. I mentioned radical feminism before to that specific commenter but the nature of my critique still stands for all western lesbians who benefitted from western gay activism but think womanhood will somehow liberate them. These generalizations are...generalizations because theyre....general patterns. And lesbians in non western countries shouldnt imitate them and ruin their lives following their lead.

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Listen. This conversation WILL be had. No one is going to run from this.

Lmao, what does that even mean? I'm literally talking with you right now. If I wanted to leave, I could quite easily, but you have no right to order people around.

So dont be dishonest in your critique.

Where do you think I was dishonest? Quote the part that I said that was dishonest, and if what I said was inaccurate, I'll fix it. Do you think it's dishonest to say, "Not all lesbians are radical feminists"? I am lesbian and I am not a radical feminist-- in fact, I am generally against radical feminism, and sometimes I get shit for it on this sub.

Also OP made a new thread, so it would probably make more sense to continue the conversation there.

edit: Look, if you want to format a quote, you would use the ">" sign at the beginning of the line you're quoting. So for example, if you said "So dont listen to these "radical feminist" types. Again, theyre mostly a useless joke." it would look like:

So dont listen to these "radical feminist" types. Again, theyre mostly a useless joke.

I take it that this line was originally from your comment to someone else that you were talking to. That wasn't immediately obvious from your comment. I am not being dishonest; it was unclear how much of that comment was about this post as opposed to another one.

I still stand by my statement that most of the "lesbians" you're making broad generalizations about are actually the so-called "political lesbians" of radical feminism. Those people are homophobic towards lesbians as well as gay men, and I agree, they're an issue.