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[–]exponent2 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

There's nothing wrong with drag. And theyre not "gender critical" people. They're what they call "radical feminists". Theyre usually a very highly, highly self destructive group of people who sometimes get it right and often times get it very, very wrong. There's no feed back loop to go, "hmm, this part of our ideology is wrong..i wonder why!". They have massive double standards which is why transbians can run circles around them and make complete fools of them. Theyre more like "jihadis for womanhood". Their equivalent would be the comical black "supremacists" people who are so self centered, that an asteroid could be coming to wipe out all of humanity and the black idiots would go, "that asteroid is racist! RACIST! It's going to kill all black people!" and then have everyone roll their eyes at them.

Here are their defects and how it reveals the flaws in their thinking..and how theyre a constant poison to lesbians: AGP transbians to it for a fetish. Theyre perverts. They destroy womens spaces! Theyre evil!"....ok, so this is where it all goes wrong: they rant and rave about THIS being the evils of heterosexual men (it is). Then when you point out that straight women fujoshis are being perverts, dehumanizing gay people, calling them FggtS left and right, they roll their eyes with the "theyre MEN. THEY can take it. Stop being such pussies....you know, the 14/15 year old gay kids on twitter should stop being such "pussies".

So MAXIMUM sympathy for women, zero sympathy for gay males and somehow gays are supposed to accept lesbians within the midst.

  1. When you introduce girls who think theyre gay men to them, "trans men", instead of calling them perverts and psychotic homophobes, they draw stories of sympathy of who could have done this to them, how theyre victims. Now, they ABSOLUTELY know these women arent victims. They know that women can be some of the most hateful, cruel evil creatures on earth and it doesnt matter how many innocent gay kids these perverts bully and harass at their most vulnerable..we MUST think of them like victims and solve their issues.

  2. AGP men and women hear these inconsistencies and know they exist because these radical feminists know their ideology is either a joke or they refuse to fix it because theyre all misusing it. It just hyper focuses on women. Theyre trying to hijack a systemic issue to make it about them when transexuality is largely connected to homophobia. Have you heard how they love ot hijack the gay community for themselves to explain to us how homophobia is about misogyny when it absolutely has nothing to do with misogyny but when they convince people with that, that means they get to extract all that gay political energy for their needs? Some of the most homophobic people you'll meet are these radical feminists but their homophobia is never directed towards gay people but instead, their love interests. The sneering, the revulsion, the disgust to a straight man's vulnerabilities...constantly calling him a FGGT either out loud or in their minds.

One thing lesbians wont tell you is how they basically destroyed the gay community with their narcssism. They always chose "womanhood" over their homosexuality and always tried to leave gay men behind...and when that didnt work, they "lost their place" and squandered all their efforts and never really took part in building up the gay community. So they project this on to gay men...but gay men couldnt build a "manly man paradise" with the straight men since they were the ones murdering us.

So the lesbians came crawling back to their "homosexual identity" begrudgingly since the straight and bisexual women wouldnt stop laughing at them behind their backs and betraying them for "men" and ruining their perfect little lesbian utopia.

Stonewall UK and multiple gay lobby groups were exclusively run by gay men. The lesbians werent kept out..they honestly just werent successful enough to run them. It took lots of money, networking and power and the gay lobby just represented homosexual interests. The lesbians came in (by doing exactly what transbians did) and used intersectional feminism to call everyone a racist, invaded the Stonewall UK gay group and formed coalitions with a bunch of people to betray gay people.THIS is the origin story of the transexual disaster. Now that these idiots invaded stonewall, guess what happened? The black lesbians betrayed the white lesbians and kicked them out...then their intersecitonal "whoever is the biggest victim gets all the money and attention" went to the black lesbians (you know, because black gay men arent the biggest victims of homophobia)...and then our community was no longer about gay and lesbian success, prosperity and power. It was about whomever whines the most gets the most attention. And guess what? The biggest winner in that case is the biggest liar so our emperor of the gays and lesbians was a black, transexual, 2 legged, wheel chair bound straight man who "identifies" as a lesbian lol. THIS is the origin story of how these people hijacked our movement.

So dont listen to these "radical feminist" types. Again, theyre mostly a useless joke.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Among other things I could point out, and no, I’m not a radfem, but you seem utterly blind to the concept of political lesbians. They are not homosexual. They are not us.

They never talk about homosexuality, only womanhood and misogyny. They are straight and bisexual women who appropriate the lesbian label for misandrist political reasons. Stop confusing political lesbians with actual homosexual females. Actual lesbians really don’t spend that much time thinking and talking about men.

It has taken me a while to understand how little of “lesbian” heritage is actual lesbians. People are always speaking for us. There are barely any actual lesbians (from what I can tell) who have been any platform in the gender ideology discussion. About the only ones I can think of are Julia D. Ghassan Robertson and Ceri and Lauren Black.