What's with celebrities 'coming out' and not clarifying what they're coming out as?

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[–]our_team_is_winning 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I noticed the change this past week when it was announced that the self-disclosure forms were changed

WHY is any workplace asking such a question???? When you apply there's a box for male or female, probably in case your name is Chris, Terry, Robin, etc. they want to know is it Mr. or Ms. Asking anything about your sexuality seems WAY out of line.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

They collect demographic data for diversity purposes. The EEOC collects such demographic data and some clients have rules about wanting “diverse” teams. I don’t love this last reason honestly because the demographic categories aren’t all interchangeable. Most relevantly though sometimes these characteristics are relevant. Like I would not want there to be a male on female sexual harassment investigation or sex discrimination matter without a member of the female sex on the team. But a trans-identifying male is an extremely poor substitute in such circumstances considering that they aren’t collecting info on sex anymore. Likewise if the matter involves sexual orientation, some gender loon has zero insight there and brings nothing to the table.

[–]our_team_is_winning 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They collect demographic data for diversity purposes.

I hate identity politics and I hate the govt telling people who to hire, who to admit, etc. based on checking off boxes ala the Biden Strategy. They might claim it's the only way to make sure companies don't only hire one group, but I've seen IT and medical places that were ONLY Indian males, so I think they just mean "no white majorities" -- now that white people are govt designated "terrorists."

I can see checking if they hire women, esp. in fields where women don't always get a chance, but it shouldn't be by force. Who wants to think "they only hired me as a token, not on my merits"? And now that men in wigs are counted as women, why bother with any of this? Government-sanctioned Wokedom. Extending to people's sexual orientation really disturbs me.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They might claim it's the only way to make sure companies don't only hire one group, but I've seen IT and medical places that were ONLY Indian males, so I think they just mean "no white majorities" -- now that white people are govt designated "terrorists."

Yes this has been an area of recent legal attention, reverse discrimination in IT hiring.

Extending to people's sexual orientation really disturbs me.

Yea I don’t like this but it’s weird that it’s “LGBTQ status” as if we’re interchangeable. Some queer nuisance has nothing to offer in terms of insight on the legal issues we work on. A gay or bisexual person does.