Biden picks Dr. Rachel Levine, transgender woman, as assistant health secretary in historic first

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[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

So does this mean we'll be seeing harmful plastic surgery proceedures possibly subsidised by the feds?

[–]mvmlego 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Yep. Just like with abortion, it's not enough for the new Democratic Party for the procedure to be legal; the procedure is so unquestionably good and unquestionably important to justify using the gun of the government to make everyone else pay for it.

[–]Archie 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Don't tell me we have anti-abortion people on a second wave feminism sub

Abortion isn't accessible for every woman if they have to pay for it. And usually, for those who need it the most.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This subreddit isn't for feminism (gendercritical would be more apt) and you unfortunately do get conservative men here who can't and refuse to understand the nuances of being a person capable of pregnancy.

[–]hetisachoice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You mean a woman?

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I thought I'd get this comment. No I don't really mean just woman because that's too general, there are a lot of things that come with being a woman. Of course only women can get pregnant but I was trying to be specific about the pregnancy thing, since this is a conversation about abortion.

[–]mvmlego 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I disagree with your comment in a few ways.

  1. My comment wasn't anti-abortion. I was pointing out that federally subsidizing trans surgeries and hormones can be justified by the same reasoning that the Democratic Party uses to advocate for subsidizing abortion. I didn't imply anything about whether those procedures should be legal.

  2. This isn't a second-wave feminism sub. Feminism is specifically devoted to advancing women's rights. This sub also advocates for the rights of gay men--a group which is as removed from the proper scope of feminism as it's possible to be.

  3. It's wrong to force people to pay for something that they believe to be murder. It's also bad for society. If we want to live in a pluralistic society, then we need to let others live according to their own conscience. Do you believe that coercing people into using certain pronoun conventions is wrong in principle, or only wrong for conventions that you disagree with?

[–]Archie 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My bad, I thought I was on GC. I disagree with your arguments (mostly, the "conscience" of those opposed to abortion matters a lot less than the lives ruined by lack of access to abortion) but you're right about this not being the proper place for this discussion.

[–]mvmlego 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think this would be an appropriate place to discuss tolerance about gender pronouns, though. If you and like-minded people had the upper hand in various institutions that TRAs currently control, would you use the same, heavy-handed techniques that they currently do in order to coerce others into adopting your preferred pronoun conventions?