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[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

The gay male community is a bit insular, which seems to be working in our favour. For now. But we still have a bit of an echo chamber culture. r/askgaybros may be against trans supremacy and against the idea of gay men submitting to transgender demands. But most gay men still buy into the lie that you can become the opposite sex and that sex change surgeries and hormones are beneficial. Most gay men still expect you to pretend that a man is a woman if this man thinks he’s a woman, or vice versa. Most gay men are still unaware of how compromised our movement has been.

Anyway, well done. It does not surprise me that there are a lot of people with autism and Aspergers identifying as trans or supporting trans rights, because people with autism or aspergers tend to be more gullible than the general population.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But most gay men still buy into the lie that you can become the opposite sex and that sex change surgeries and hormones are beneficial. Most gay men still expect you to pretend that a man is a woman if this man thinks he’s a woman, or vice versa. Most gay men are still unaware of how compromised our movement has been.

Yeah? You think that's true? I know we talk a lot here about how lesbian communities have been harmed by the prevalence of these beliefs, but perhaps seeing the more extreme harms done by people with autogynephilia (in the lesbian community) makes us underestimate how much transgender ideology also harms gay men.

edit: Also thanks and thank you for reading it! Yeah, I think the effects on the autism community are being underestimated right now... still need to read Abigail Shrier's book, it seems like a step in the right direction for talking about it.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I might check out that book.

Transgender ideology may not have hurt the gay male communities as much as it has hurt the lesbian communities, but we have our own problems. Problems like lack of accountability, hostility towards gay people who don’t have liberal viewpoints, Peter Pan syndrome, internalised misandry and excessive promiscuity. On the subject of internalised misandry, some gay men are also misogynistic and a bad influence on some straight women.

[–]ukrdude10 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry but you're wrong about autism/aspergers. We're not more "gullible", aspies have equal or higher IQ than the general population, and we have normal reasoning and critical thinking skills. None of the aspies that I know are transgender, and I have never been gender-confused. So please do more research and don't insult people who are on your side. Thank you.