RantDoes any other lesbian or gay men feels this way?

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[–]Nohope 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

All I get from this post and the comments is not even gay people accept themselves, and even when they think they do they still harbor some resentment towards being different from straight people and are jealous of straight people which means they are not fully accepting of their attraction. That's sad.

Are all the people in the LGBDropTheT circle like this? I thought the circle dropped the T because the T is homophobic, but here I see gay people being homophobic towards themselves, even if it's not towards other gay people. I saw the same thing in the LGBDropTheT on reddit that is not there anymore. I don't think one can criticize the T for being homophobic, when they are homophobic themselves.

I don't agree with the T and agree with dropping it. I just don't think I belong to this circle if the people in it have internalized homophobia.

I don't want to upset you OP and the others, I just am surprised to see posts like yours and comments like this. I can not relate to you and others. I am proud and never felt ashamed of being a lesbian, and not being able to understand girls that "like" boys, or boys that "like" girls. I don't wish to understand them, and see no point in it. I am me, they are them. I put the time you put on being upset over not being able to understand straight girls and straight boys, on trying to understand myself, "what makes me happy today", "what should I do to overcome the boredom now", etc.

I never thought of being different as a bad thing either, but a good thing. Being like the others is boring, and I can't stand it. Imagine a salad that is all just lettuce, and nothing else. That's like what you want, when you want to be like the others, everyone being straight. But I don't understand you. There should be some diversity in the salad. There should be other ingredients to give it color, such as tomatoes, cabbage, bell peppers, etc. There should be something else or it's boring and I can't even look at it.

And the other ingredients are the gay people, exactly what we need to give everything color, and make things not boring.

But yeah, if you want to continue feeling the way you do, then no matter what I say I won't be able to help you.

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    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Great comment. I had the exact impression as you did - that the person who respond to me has never faced tough discrimination and was lucky enough to have been raised in a supportive and "liberal" environment. I feel like several gay people nowadays are lucky enough to have never faced such discrimination. That's great. But I also think many of them, because they've never been through it, undermine our struggles in particular of older gay people who probably had faced much worse. Despite me being young (23 years old), I came out 10 years ago. And 10 years ago things were considerably different for gay people. Things have been changing A LOT and very fast over the past few years. Having said all this, I truly hope you have found peace within yourself and that you're happy as an homosexual person now. I wish you the best and I'm sorry that you had to go through all of that. Hugs.

    [–]Nohope 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    You don't get to assume things about me. What do you know? Did you even bother reading the long comment I sent you? I am in a muslim country, and in every muslim country saying one is gay out loud can not only send them to prison but also give them at least 100 lashes. You think you had worse than me? Oh please. Stop acting like just because you were told in a catholic household that being gay is a "sin", and you could be thrown out of your house, you get to act like that's the toughest thing you could have gone through.

    You want to hate yourself? You're jealous of straight people? Fine. Be petty and hate yourself, but you don't get to assume things about me. And just because you went through something, you don't get to act high and mighty and look down on others, even if they did not go through the same difficult things you did.

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Copy paste of an excerpt of my answer to you:

    "You also sound like you had a pretty chill coming out journey. I might be wrong, but if you've never felt once ashamed of being a lesbian, what I think right away is that you never faced rough discrimination, in particular from your family or close friends. I might be totally wrong and if I am, then congrats to you for feeling great about yourself."

    We all assume things, it doesn't mean we're right, like I actually said in my answer. And yes, I've read everything. And no, I don't hate myself. I just feel like you don't understand me and there's no point in continuing the conversation.

    Regardless, I'm very happy that you love yourself and are brave to be gay in such a homophobic country. Best wishes.